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Were they rude? Or am I over-thinking it?

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zingally · 01/01/2020 18:36

This concerns my older sister and her fiancée. She is late 30s, he is mid-40s, and both are on the autistic spectrum but not officially diagnosed, but both live independently, hold down good jobs etc. Sister openly admits she's on the spectrum and understands she sees the world differently. Her fiancée doesn't/can't/won't acknowledge it, and his poor behaviours/social mis-steps are always someone else's fault.

For Christmas, I asked my mum to make me up a hamper of foody bits as my present. She did as requested. Went to a lot of trouble to decorate a box nicely and filled it up with a mixture of food items, household bits, and a couple of jokey items that she wrapped up. I really enjoyed looking through the hamper, unwrapping the bits and bobs and it was just nice all-round. It was just mum and I for Christmas day, so sister and fiancée didn't see my reaction to the hamper.

A few days later, sister and fiancée turn up, and mum has done a hamper for them as well. They hadn't asked for it, but neither of them told mum what they wanted, so she just did the same as she did me.

They both sat down on the floor to open it, mum hovering over them expectantly, expecting a bit of a pleased fuss, like I'd made.

Sister was virtually silent, fiancée just went, "Oh, sponges, I've got loads of them." They spent maybe a minute poking through it, didn't say thank you, and then just went back to their seats on the sofa. Mum looked a bit disappointed, but didn't say anything.

My question is, would I be wrong to say anything to my sister like, "did you thank mum for the hamper?" I just know that mum put a lot of work into it, and their response was underwhelmed, bordering cold.

I KNOW they're both autistic, and social norms pass them by a lot of the time, but they're reasonably functioning, established adults, and SHOULD know how to behave appropriately to a gift that someone has obviously put time and effort into. But is it my place to raise it with them? I know the answer is probably "not your problem", but I'm very protective of mum (more so since my dad died in 2017) and hate seeing her disappointed by my sister.

There is more to unpick, like I feel that my sister hasn't pulled her weight in supporting mum since dad died, or while he was ill in the year before he passed. And I totally see that is a contributory factor as to why I'm cross about something like a Christmas hamper. It's a little bit the final straw in a long like of annoyances!

OP posts:
FraglesRock · 02/01/2020 09:28

One of my children is an adult with autism. Still bloody 'forgets' to say Thankyou.
It is one of the few things that bugs me.
'Social convention dictates that we say Thankyou for every gift, even if isn't what you'd have chosen' works (ish)

janNOTjanet · 02/01/2020 09:32

People saying OP Mum went to lots of trouble, maybe, but more for OP than anyone else, then just got the same for her sister at the same time because she didn't know her well enough to choose something she'd appreciate 🤷🏻‍♀️

That's what I thought as well.

longwayoff · 02/01/2020 09:35

Oh I do love a family Christmas. The expectations. The disappointments. The stirring up of unnecessary family rifts and disputes. Leave it alone. Your mum knows your sister at least as well as you do and if she's not complaining it's not for you to do so.

UndertheCedartree · 02/01/2020 14:21

While, I agee the DS and her DF could well have acted like that because of ASD. It has annoyed me a bit people saying 'People with Autism are like that'. We're not all the same!! Some people with ASD would struggle with that social situation but others not so much. Oh and @zingally - I would have loved a hamper too Smile

Arthritica · 02/01/2020 14:43

OP, I think you’re pissed of with your sister and feeling protective of your mum. Something you would have shaken off in previous years has riled you because of that.

CripsSandwiches · 02/01/2020 14:46

If she's autistic and been getting a negative reaction for social mid steps all her life she may be defensive of criticism so I'd pose it in a positive light. Eg 'mum would really appreciate a thank you for the hamper, I know it might not have been your thing but she worked really hard on it'

livefornaps · 02/01/2020 16:23

Oh my lord, are we still banging on about them fookin' sponges?! It was a CRAP GIFT

greenlavender · 02/01/2020 16:30

I agree with @phoenixrosehere. Your DSIS didn't provide present ideas but I presume your DM knows her well enough to know she may not have the same interests / likes as you. She should have said thank you but equally we are all different.

jamdhanihash · 02/01/2020 16:30

This is the sort of present my DSis would want and my mum would just love making it up for her. I wouldn't want it. If my mum gave me that I'd probably be a tiny bit pissed off. Shouldn't your mum have gotten them something a bit more to their/ anyone's tastes? Anyway I agree they were rude but sorry it sounds like you're picking a fight OP. Maybe consider how it looked from your DSis's perspective.

NiffleTime · 02/01/2020 17:06

@Ginfordinner, you can google ‘Atypical backlash’ or similar and find lots of articles explaining exactly why, but to sum up, it relies on a lot of inaccurate stereotypes, makes the main character the butt of jokes, and as I said, there are no autistic people on the production team, and one of the team has a history of ableist comments on Twitter and elsewhere.

ThatUserNamesTakenTryAnother · 02/01/2020 17:17

I spotted after you day they're on the spectrum but not diagnosed!? Who's given the informal diagnosis then?

ThatUserNamesTakenTryAnother · 02/01/2020 17:18

stopped after you said

Ginfordinner · 02/01/2020 19:53

Thanks NiffleTime. I did that. Apparently the second season featured more actors and writers with autism, and also received mostly positive reviews.

I admit that I know very little about it. One of DD's friends was diagnosed with it in her last year of school. She masks it very well though so unless you knew, you wouldn't think that she had autism at all.

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