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To be so embarrassed

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soembarrassing19 · 29/12/2019 15:22

DP and myself were having a small argument on Xmas eve day about how much we had spent on the kids. I accidentally rang the police from my pocket and they came round due to hearing us arguing. They said it was due to them having no response on the phone and believed it to be a DV call.
They came round and took us into seperate room and asked us questions. We all laughed about it in the end but they did say it would have to go to social care as kids involved but the most we would probably get was a phone call. So embarrassed that this has happened.
Worse still, we knew the police officers through work.

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soembarrassing19 · 29/12/2019 20:34

I've spoken to two social worker friends and they said a call will be the most I will get. The kids were asleep and never even woke up. The police didn't even ask to see the kids, which they would if there were any concerns.

It was a heated discussion, but due to them hearing it they had a duty of care to come out. This is what I have been told from a police call handler. A police officer and a social worker. I've got nothing to hide so I'm not worried if they do come out.

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soembarrassing19 · 29/12/2019 20:34

@Furiosa they didn't seperate us. They asked to speak to us separately which we did.

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Bitchbadgerplease · 29/12/2019 20:40

furiosa and others who dont believe the accident as I've said already I used to work for them and this sort of thing is very common. Yes you speak to the operator but if you dial 999 and nobody talks to the operator, they ring thru to the police. Never fire or ambulance, police always.

AllInTheBestPossibleTaste · 29/12/2019 20:55

Op, a call is the least you can expect, doesn't mean it's the most though. You have no idea how a SW may interpret the report, they may just want to come out and see the children. They may not but you can't say for sure. But like you said, you have nothing to hide and it doesn't sound suspicious at all Hmm

Furiosa · 29/12/2019 20:59

Bitchbadgerplease thanks for the clarification, I didn't know that. I've only called 999 once and was asked what service I needed.

OP look, even if you and your DH were having a balazing argument SS will just want to talk to make sure everything is fine. Don't worry. I'm sorry I doubt your story but that doesn't mean I think badly, it's not the end of the world and I'm sure everything will be fine Smile

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soembarrassing19 · 29/12/2019 21:01

@AllInTheBestPossibleTaste I've spoken to two different social workers in the team. I also rang a report through where a Mum was leaving 3 under 3s in the house alone to take her 4 year old to nursery. She didn't even get a call. They are over worked. It will come to nothing. Especially as the police left with us both saying the same thing and there being no signs of unrest. No children woke up and hey didn't even ask to see the kids.

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soembarrassing19 · 29/12/2019 21:02

@GreenGrove I have no reason to fib. If I was going to make it up how on Earth was I able to post the call log from Tuesday?

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AllInTheBestPossibleTaste · 29/12/2019 21:11

You're taking advise for SW that know you, a different SW may work on the dice of caution, especially as the 999 call was made during an argument and not just a blank call. And referrals from the public have no prof to them ( unfortunately malicious call made to SS are a thing) so SW are much more likely to act on an actual reliable source (such as police, school, doctor). I'm just letting you know , that's all. Hope it is just a call and you get

AllInTheBestPossibleTaste · 29/12/2019 21:15

Ps, if 3 under 3s were being left alone the fist port of call for me would be the police.

soembarrassing19 · 29/12/2019 21:18

It was a MASH referral. A safeguarding concern goes there in line with my organisations policies and procedures.

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MrsGrindah · 29/12/2019 21:20

We all laughed about it in the end

yes being referred to Social Services would be hilarious

soembarrassing19 · 29/12/2019 21:22

@MrsGrindah ffs. It wasn't a referral. They have to notify them, it's standard practice. Why can people not grasp this 🙄. The policeman and woman were laughing at our story, as we were. They said they usually need to diffuse situations but it wasn't the case with us.

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Bluntness100 · 29/12/2019 21:25

You do like to argue semantics op. They took us into seperate rooms and asked us questions, but we weren't interviewed, they need to get social services involved, but it's a notification not a referral. They have to get social services involved but the coppers found it funny.

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Nicknacky · 29/12/2019 21:28

Of course it’s a referral! It makes no difference what you want to call it.

soembarrassing19 · 29/12/2019 21:30

@Bluntness100 they were laughing along with us about the silliness of the situation. I showed the policeman my phone and how it wasn't working. He was lovely and very understanding. We were apologising for wasting police time and he said they have to come out as it was standard protocol and the call handler will have had to advise them too due to the arguing.
DP and I rarely argue. I said to the policeman they must get to hear some right conversations through accidental calls and he said he did. As they left he said not to worry, it's all just standard procedure
And we said ye were aware etc.
I must say if all police are as lovely as the ones who came to our house, I would never feel like I couldn't use them.

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Bluntness100 · 29/12/2019 21:31

And yet they didn't reclassify it, as they can, but kept it as suspected domestic abuse and decided they needed to get social services involved..

soembarrassing19 · 29/12/2019 21:32

@Nicknacky the police officer says they have to notify them. A full referral is due to concerns. There were no concerns. He said that himself. They just have to notify social care of any cal out where kids are involved.

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Nicknacky · 29/12/2019 21:36

Op, my point is it, it IS a referral. You are tying yourself up in knots about that. Notification, referral, inform them....it’s the same thing.

We use the same reporting system for minor and serious domestic incidents.

Bluntness100 · 29/12/2019 21:37

They just have to notify social care of any cal out where kids are involved

You must know this is not true and that people on here know otherwise. If they thought there was no issue, couldn't hear anything, and it was just a pocket call as you claim they would reclassify and not refer. No way round it op.

soembarrassing19 · 29/12/2019 21:37

@Bluntness100 he said he couldn't reclassify it as there were 4 children in the house.

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Bluntness100 · 29/12/2019 21:39

Cmon op. It doesn't matter how many kids in the house, if they couldn't hear anything, thought it was a pocket call and absolutely no domestic abuse they can reclassify it, they don't refer every single pocket call to social services. You can't seriously be expecting people to believe that you think that.

soembarrassing19 · 29/12/2019 21:40

@Nicknacky I understood it completely differently as because at work if it's a notification we make a quick call. If it's a full referral we have to fill in the safeguarding referral forms and they go the reception team at social care.

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soembarrassing19 · 29/12/2019 21:42

@Bluntness100 they heard an argument that's what they came. As it was domestic they had a standard procedure to notify children's services. He said it's the same every time
It's a domestic with children in the house.

Social workers I have spoken too have said if hey had concerns regarding the children they would have asked to see them. As they could have potentially been cowering in their bedrooms.

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Nicknacky · 29/12/2019 21:45

Op, but you aren’t a police officer so presumably you don’t know what systems the police use to send a referral.

Very unlikely anything will come of it, but stop splitting hairs about the notification system between the two agencies. Every area is different, of course, but I would imagine all forces will use an electronic referral system. We do also phone so as well, at the time of the incident.

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