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'You lost, get over it'.

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KnowBetterDoBetter · 20/12/2019 17:10

Has anybody ever said this phrase and not been a complete and utter dickhead?

I mean, would any civilised person ever use it in any other situation?

Your DH is upset as they didn't get the job they'd hoped for.

"Honestly DH, you lost. Get over it".

A friend lost out on a house they'd set their heart on.

"It's been a week now. Stop crying, and get over it, honestly".

Your kid came last at sports day.

"LOSER! Get over it, for goodness sake".

It's just so rude. Either join in with the discussion, or ignore it. Even my 4yo understands that it's rude to gloat about winning, and people won't want to play with you if you keep doing it.

I always imagine people saying it in real life, then sticking their tongue out, putting their thumb on their nose and wiggling their fingers (is there a name for this action?), proclaiming 'na na na na naaaa'.

Any other phrases that are particularly irritating to you?

NB: I know I'll get 100 posts saying 'turkeys voting for Christmas', which I guess is the equivalent stupid phrase favoured by the left. But at least they get taken the piss out of when they use it. 'You lost, get over it' seems to be a completely valid contribution to debate on MN these days.

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kittykatkitty · 21/12/2019 00:12

Seriously you lost! Just get over it!
You have 5 years to regroup!
Give it up!
You lost!
Get over it!

KnowBetterDoBetter · 21/12/2019 00:13

What we CAN do, and it's pretty much the ONLY thing we can do, is to make our little corner of the UK better. Be nice to each other, do well at work, see your family, make your children smile. Buy a drink for a homeless person. Give to the local food bank.

Totally agree. I was/ am gutted, and am scared for myself & my family, and more so for the most vulnerable in society.

But I refuse to believe that such a large chunk of the population really don't give a shit about the poor and disabled. I think (hope?) that most people do - they just have a different opinion on how the government is best placed to help them.

So I'm doing as you advise. I'm going to volunteer at the local food bank each week in the new year. I'm going to do better re cutting back on plastics, driving less etc. I'm trying to be as kind as I can to everybody, including myself. There's no point in sitting there moaning about the state of society - all you can do is try and make things a little better.

So I totally agree. But that's why I feel these kinds of rhetoric, from both sides, are really unhelpful.

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Livelovebehappy · 21/12/2019 00:15

I mean, come on, when you have huge numbers of people in London voting for the clueless stupid Diane Abbot you have to question who is stupid here - it really doesn’t say much for the supposedly intelligent people in the south does it? Let’s just say if Abbot stood for any constituency in the North she would have been ousted out of office years ago. Stupid doesn’t even come close to describing this individual, and I find it mind boggling that any intelligent sane person doesn’t agree.

VenusTiger · 21/12/2019 00:22

@KnowBetterDoBetter sorry what? You think people saying all over the media, all the live long day, for 3.5yrs that people who voted Brexit are stupid, misinformed and are going to be ignored should walk on by/scroll past and erm, get over it!?

What are you saying? It’s absolute hypocrisy. It’s actually pathetic!

VenusTiger · 21/12/2019 00:23

@Livelovebehappy too bloody right! It’s seriously mind boggling!

KnowBetterDoBetter · 21/12/2019 00:26

I mean, come on, when you have huge numbers of people in London voting for the clueless stupid Diane Abbot you have to question who is stupid here - it really doesn’t say much for the supposedly intelligent people in the south does it? Let’s just say if Abbot stood for any constituency in the North she would have been ousted out of office years ago. Stupid doesn’t even come close to describing this individual, and I find it mind boggling that any intelligent sane person doesn’t agree.

She's an amazing constituency MP, from what I've heard. Don't a great deal of the new MPs not even live, or have any links to, their new constituencies? Not sure that's what I'd be after in an MP.

She's demonised by the MSM and receives 10x more abuse than any other female politician. Why is it that you feel so strongly against her?

She was suffering with ill health at the interview I guess you're speaking about. Yet multiple tories are still trying to say that adding 31k new nurses to the existing 19k nurses already employed equates to 50k more nurses. They're still sticking to that this week.

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KnowBetterDoBetter · 21/12/2019 00:29

*@KnowBetterDoBetter sorry what? You think people saying all over the media, all the live long day, for 3.5yrs that people who voted Brexit are stupid, misinformed and are going to be ignored should walk on by/scroll past and erm, get over it!?

What are you saying? It’s absolute hypocrisy. It’s actually pathetic!*

Where are you getting half of this stuff from? I'm saying that when people are not saying anything negative towards you, but are just scared about their futures under a conservative government, why feel the need to post a silly little boasting phrase? Why be so rude, for no reason? That's pathetic.

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Wereeaglesdare · 21/12/2019 00:31

I have called out torys and called people murdering cunts. Yes I am not proud of my actions but I was hurting. I don't view this as something I'll get over. It isn't a football match. Just because your party won doesn't mean someone else won't be disadvantaged by them.

Nothing is to be done about the NHS nothing is to be done about social care. Nothing will overturn the universal credit system failing so many. I had hope with JC I really did. And I feel like it's dead now and we have to just make do with what we can.

I am not getting over it and I'm sure people's choices will be regretted in time. I feel for the people on the streets of this country who will be dead by Christmas. I think we all need to pull together in our communities and protect out most vulnerable. That's the best outcome we can have now.

CharlottesPleb · 21/12/2019 00:52

I have called out torys and called people murdering cunts.

Yeah we all know, we've all heard worse than that a thousand times.

Almost every day of the last few years I have seen, or had to choose to avoid, the hideous vile shit, gloating, insults, terrible ill wishes, threats and intimidatipn, not to mention the bizarre conspiracy theories, racism, ableism and misogyny online from "progressive" people. Just miserable.

Honestly I think "get over it you lost" is just about the most restrained response anyone could possibly expect, and if anyone is under illusions they are being treated unfairly by those people, remember that "murdering cunts" would probably not make the top 5 things many have had to absorb repeatedly over the last few years.

VenusTiger · 21/12/2019 01:00

@KnowBetterDoBetter because I’ve only ever heard people use the phrase “get over it” in response to vitriolic rants and blatant hypocritical statements made by people who “promise”d to honour the result, i.e. Corbyn, Cameron, Cable etc. all whom have tried to thwart, block and stop Brexit after the vote was “won” (yes that is a phrase commonly used in votes) by a majority. As I said, after 3.5 bloody years, it’s so bloody tiresome and you’d say the same to the DH who didn’t get his job after an interview 3.5yrs ago and bleated on about it over the dinner table, every evening....... for 3.5 yrs.... during which time would’ve attended two further interviews at the same company for different jobs and still not been offered a job there....still bleating on and suggesting the company are stupid and don’t know what they’re doing.... you’d say, get over it and change your approach instead of moaning about a demographic decision.

Equanimitas · 21/12/2019 01:03

It's a particularly crass saying because the people who have really lost are the poor and vulnerable who won't be able to just get over it. If you were barely subsisting on the minimum wage and it gets reduced because the Tories are getting rid of it, how do you "just get over" losing your home when you can't pay the rent? If you're in a hospital that's chronically understaffed, how are you going to just get over the lack of care resulting from even greater staffing difficulties after Brexit? If you're disabled and getting minimal care, how are you going to "just get over" that care being reduced?

CharlottesPleb · 21/12/2019 01:31

It's a particularly crass saying because the people who have really lost are the poor and vulnerable who won't be able to just get over it. If you were barely subsisting on the minimum wage and it gets reduced because the Tories are getting rid of it, how do you "just get over" losing your home when you can't pay the rent? If you're in a hospital that's chronically understaffed, how are you going to just get over the lack of care resulting from even greater staffing difficulties after Brexit? If you're disabled and getting minimal care, how are you going to "just get over" that care being reduced?

If you believe this to be the case, you should blame the Labour Party that held a gun to your head and said to the electorate "you accept the unacceptable or these people lose out"

That's if you were taken in by Jeremy Corbyn in the first place and think 'austerity' happens in a vacuum without a cause, because Conservative and Lib Dem politicians just really love not spending money despite the fact it is popular and gets people to vote for you.

derxa · 21/12/2019 01:34

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Monkeynuts18 · 21/12/2019 01:57

Yes, I agree with you. It’s a particularly stupid little phrase because politics is not a game of football. We’re not on ‘teams’.

DonutMan · 21/12/2019 02:07

To be fair, it does sound like you need to get over it.

Equanimitas · 21/12/2019 02:09

I do blame the Labour party, CharlottesPleb, and have never been taken in by Corbyn, and I didn't vote Labour. But they aren't the ones removing the minimum wage, cutting down benefits, running the education and SEN system chaotically, and lying about all their cuts to the NHS, police service and justice system. You have to look at first causes first.

And how does blaming the Labour party actually help all those people anyway?

Monkeynuts18 · 21/12/2019 02:09

She's demonised by the MSM and receives 10x more abuse than any other female politician. Why is it that you feel so strongly against her?

Yes. Scratches head. What could it be? What characteristics could she have that prompt the media and some of the electorate to attack her so viciously for her mistakes in comparison to other MPs?

CharlottesPleb · 21/12/2019 02:39

*I do blame the Labour party,CharlottesPleb, and have never been taken in by Corbyn, and I didn't vote Labour. But they aren't the ones removing the minimum wage, cutting down benefits, running the education and SEN system chaotically, and lying about all their cuts to the NHS, police service and justice system. You have to look at first causes first.

And how does blaming the Labour party actually help all those people anyway?*

I mean if you abstained, you lost 50% of your impact against the conservative win, it seems at first glance like your analysis is not consistent with your vote, but I expect that isn't really the case.

In the context of the OP this is a response to ongoing argument after the fact (ie when you get told to get over it) - in that instance there are several responses to "that's crass think of the children", one of them is yes, blame Labour for using them as hostages to try and force Jeremy in and Brexit out.

I wouldn't worry too much about the situation being better under Labour than under the Conservatives, as the Corbyn regime's parliamentary performance, press interviews and manifesto made it amply clear they weren't going to form a competent government and weren't "working on" costed plans in any meaningful way- nobody was I think. We would be cutting massive amounts of services and benefits again in a few years, probably with Labour (yet again) pretending from the sidelines that they had nothing to do with it, and that cuts were happening because no other party would like to be buying votes. As it stands the Conservatives are going to do a similar thing by the looks of it so if that's your bag, enjoy.

CharlottesPleb · 21/12/2019 02:43

What characteristics could she have that prompt the media and some of the electorate to attack her so viciously for her mistakes in comparison to other MPs?

She proved unable to achieve her goals, was a CINO, lots of dreadful authoritarian legislation passed, and some of her proposals were New Labour levels of ill-considered tripe.

CharlottesPleb · 21/12/2019 02:51

I do apologise I answered as if May , and the comment was referring to Diane Abbot. Please ignore Blush

Leflic · 21/12/2019 06:08

Almist every day of the last few years I have seen, or had to choose to avoid, the hideous vile shit, gloating, insults, terrible ill wishes, threats and intimidatipn, not to mention the bizarre conspiracy theories, racism, ableism and misogyny online from "progressive" people. Just miserable.

Honestly I think "get over it you lost" is just about the most restrained response anyone could possibly expect, and if anyone is under illusions they are being treated unfairly by those people, remember that "murdering cunts" would probably not make the top 5 things many have had to absorb repeatedly over the last few years.

This.

Hopoindown31 · 21/12/2019 06:55

But I refuse to believe that such a large chunk of the population really don't give a shit about the poor and disabled.

Why, when the evidence is clear that they don't based on who they vote for?

I've just got fed up of playing this silly game that just because everyone has a vote that all their opinions are valid and worthy of respect. History has shown us that the majority can make bad choices.

Jillyhilly · 21/12/2019 08:27

But I refuse to believe that such a large chunk of the population really don't give a shit about the poor and disabled.

Why, when the evidence is clear that they don't based on who they vote for?

But less affluent communities in the North voted in droves for the Tories. How do you explain that to yourself?

Jillyhilly · 21/12/2019 08:34

I've just got fed up of playing this silly game that just because everyone has a vote that all their opinions are valid and worthy of respect. History has shown us that the majority can make bad choices.

Oh sorry, I didn’t read your 2nd paragraph properly. It’s the usual explanation that people who didn’t vote the “right” way - the way that you in your wisdom think they should have voted - are beneath contempt. Got it.

refraction · 21/12/2019 09:40

refraction he was probably shocked because you were talking complete rubbish. It wasn’t 300k extra votes the tories got compared to labour. It was over 3 1/2 million more votes.

Smiley that's not what I said though is it!

Dear me! I think you are the one talking' complete rubbish'

What I said was correct ' compared to labour' was never stated.

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