'You lost, get over it'.

[KnowBetterDoBetter]

Has anybody ever said this phrase and not been a complete and utter dickhead?

I mean, would any civilised person ever use it in any other situation?

Your DH is upset as they didn't get the job they'd hoped for.

"Honestly DH, you lost. Get over it".

A friend lost out on a house they'd set their heart on.

"It's been a week now. Stop crying, and get over it, honestly".

Your kid came last at sports day.

"LOSER! Get over it, for goodness sake".

It's just so rude. Either join in with the discussion, or ignore it. Even my 4yo understands that it's rude to gloat about winning, and people won't want to play with you if you keep doing it.

I always imagine people saying it in real life, then sticking their tongue out, putting their thumb on their nose and wiggling their fingers (is there a name for this action?), proclaiming 'na na na na naaaa'.

Any other phrases that are particularly irritating to you?

NB: I know I'll get 100 posts saying 'turkeys voting for Christmas', which I guess is the equivalent stupid phrase favoured by the left. But at least they get taken the piss out of when they use it. 'You lost, get over it' seems to be a completely valid contribution to debate on MN these days.

why is it rude to thank Corbyn for providing hope?
Because it’s extending to the level of bizarre hero-worship and fails to acknowledge that it was false hope and his ridiculous policies were what lost them the election in the first place.

Nothing wrong with protesting [the fair and square result]!
Yes there is. It’s falling to accept democracy and seeking to overturn a democratic result.

You don't have to read the full thread, but maybe the entire OP would be helpful.

I read the OP and the full thread, you don’t need to patronise me. I just don’t see how “you lost, get over it” means you’re a “complete and utter dickhead” but “turkeys for voting Christmas” just have “the piss taken out of them”. Maybe it’s my northern heritage that makes me hard of understanding because the whole of the north is thick, right? Turkeys for voting for Christmas is not the left’s version of an equally stupid phrase. It is an insulting statement. I’m actually really surprised that MN are allowing it to be used so much when they moderate other offensive language. “You lost, get over it” is a stupid statement. It’s fucking pointless. How does anyone win an election when all the candidates are fucking useless? But the fact that you think those two statements are on a par is why ‘turkeys voting for Christmas’ is being thrown around MN at the minute and the whole of the north is having their interests disregarded. Why the south is assuming the Roth don’t know what is best for them, despite not having a clue. Again. Instead of excusing this statement (or throwing this statement around with some other posters) ask why the north feels so abandoned by labour that it turned to Tory.

Disclaimer (as you have to do on any of these threads):

• didn’t vote for labour
• didn’t vote for Tory
• typically a floating voter so likely would have voted labour in a future election. Have voted labour, as well as Lib Dem’s, green and Tory in local and general elections depending on policies at the time
• really dislike how labour supporters are behaving in the face of their ‘loss’ and honestly it’s probably going to influence my opinion of labour in future elections

It would be undemocratic for minority party politicians to not allow the majority party to form a government.

It is not undemocratic for the civilians who didn't vote for the majority to be unhappy with the result. You can't make people like you just because theres more of you, unfortunately.

Still struggling after last week OP 😭

You lost, get over it basically means you’re being a sore loser. The decent thing to do is to shake the other guy’s hand and say well done, and hope to do better next time. Not start shouting like a spoiled child “It’s unfair! I hate you! I demand the result is overturned because I didn’t get what I want!”

Mark Francois in parliament today was pretty much telling all the opposition MPs that they list the election so shouldn't have the temerity to vote against the government. He seemed to have fundamentally misunderstood how parliamentary democracy works: every MP is in parliament because they WON the election in their constituency, and it is their job to represent the views of those who elected them, you stupid man.

People are using the phrase more at the moment because it’s the same old, same old, Every. Single. Day. Posters come on MN to state what has been discussed for the last two years;

Why are people voting Tory.
What are your reasons for voting Brexit.
Why are people in the North stupid, racist, uncaring.
Why have the turkeys voted for Christmas.
Blah, blah, blah....

So it’s just like Ground hog day, and the only phrase which describes how most of us now feel is ‘you lost, get over it and move on’ because there’s really nothing else to be said which hasn’t been said already.

why is it rude to thank Corbyn for providing hope?
Because it’s extending to the level of bizarre hero-worship and fails to acknowledge that it was false hope and his ridiculous policies were what lost them the election in the first place.

So who is that being rude to?

Nothing wrong with protesting [the fair and square result]!
Yes there is. It’s falling to accept democracy and seeking to overturn a democratic result.

Not sure anybody was protesting with the hopes that it would overturn the result. But would you rather live in a country where people were not allowed to speak out about their government?

I just don’t see how “you lost, get over it” means you’re a “complete and utter dickhead” but “turkeys for voting Christmas” just have “the piss taken out of them”.

Well, like I said - the former seems to be commonplace, repeated over and over again on a thread, whereas people who say the latter are ridiculed, rightly. My thread was on the former, because that's the one that irritates me the most. I'm not sure why you're so angry?

Maybe it’s my northern heritage that makes me hard of understanding because the whole of the north is thick, right? ... But the fact that you think those two statements are on a par is why ‘turkeys voting for Christmas’ is being thrown around MN at the minute and the whole of the north is having their interests disregarded.

This is all a bit of a ridiculous stretch, I'm sorry. Me hating the phrase 'you lost, get over it' because it's so inane and childish (whilst saying on the general topic of stupid phrases that turkeys voting for Christmas is also a ridiculous one) is really not the reason that 'the whole of the north is having their interests disregarded'. Nobody gives a shit for my opinions that much Honestly. I am not the enemy. I was just trying to have a chat. I'm not plotting the demise of the north.

I'm not sure why you're so angry?

Quite simply, you don’t understand how insulting the other comment is. Your annoyance at “you lost, get over it” because it’s childish is in the same league for you as insulting millions of people. Both are repeated again and again on this site. Stop dismissing “turkeys voting for Christmas” as inane and childish when actually it’s insulting and condescending.

I cannot believe how “intelligent” people on this site actually don’t see the insult in the comment.

Not sure anybody was protesting with the hopes that it would overturn the result
The whole thing about people marching and yelling “Not my prime minister!” is a perfect example. It’s refusing to accept a democratic result because it’s not what you wanted. You can protest policies and actions etc but not the result of a democratic vote. The whole point of it is that it’s fair.

Quite simply, you don’t understand how insulting the other comment is. Your annoyance at “you lost, get over it” because it’s childish is in the same league for you as insulting millions of people. Both are repeated again and again on this site. Stop dismissing “turkeys voting for Christmas” as inane and childish when actually it’s insulting and condescending.

I've literally took the piss out of people saying it. I haven't said it. I could say to you how insulting it is to call Muslim women letterboxes and gay people bum boys. Or that the people who died at Grenfell lacked common sense. But I wouldn't feel the need, because you haven't said it. Just because you're not denouncing every instance of problematic Conservative rhetoric in every post, that doesn't mean I don't feel you have the right to complain about silly things some Labour voters say. I still don't know why that means I'm to blame for all northern prejudice. And I actually used those adjectives to describe the you lost... phrase. 🤯

The whole thing about people marching and yelling “Not my prime minister!” is a perfect example. It’s refusing to accept a democratic result because it’s not what you wanted. You can protest policies and actions etc but not the result of a democratic vote. The whole point of it is that it’s fair.

That's not a perfect example, though. If all of the MPs walked out and refused to treat Boris as prime minister, that would be undemocratic.

But of course the general public should be able to protest about the result of a democratic vote, as long as it's peaceful.

You may think it's silly, or pointless - it may well be. But don't you think it would be a lot more scary to live in a country where it was illegal to do so? It would be in everybody's worst interests - left and right; and would absolutely be a signal for the end of democracy as we know it.

Because taking the piss is the same as calling people out for it.

If someone had posted that Muslim women look like letterboxes, everyone would have called that person out. Their post would have been removed. They wouldn’t have taken the piss out of the poster. But someone comments with about the turkeys and you just take the piss. Very big of you to take the piss out of the comment and not actually call people out on it. Not actually challenge it. It’s not really addressing the issue. What I keep trying to explain is that one comment, the one you felt so upset by you had to start a thread about, is childish and inane. The other comment is insulting, it is prejudice. The two are not equal. If someone wants to throw turkeys voting for Christmas out, they should be met with get over it. Along with being told they’re fucking cunt and they shouldn’t use such broad, prejudiced and bullshit comments.

You’re not to blame for all northern prejudice but how is calling the turkey comment childish and failing to see how insulting it is, helping the issue? Please don’t come back with you take the piss. Please.

I get it @CakeAndGin.

“Turkeys voting for Christmas” is yet another way of saying that ordinary working people are too stupid to make a sensible decision for themselves. It’s what Labour have been saying to Northerners, in particular, for years. And it’s been going on for decades, this horrible and total abandonment of working class people by the party who should be fighting for them.

It never stops and they still don’t get it. All these tweets by the likes of Angela Rayner and Owen Jones about “Oh it’s not me I’m sorry for, it’s a tragedy for the people who voted for Boris who are going to suffer under the terrible Tories.” It’s just another way of saying what they’ve been saying for years - that working class people are too stupid to weigh up the pros and cons and make good decisions for themselves. It is incredibly insulting.

But of course the general public should be able to protest about the result of a democratic vote
If you protest a democratic vote you’re essentially protesting that other people didn’t vote the way you wanted them to. I find that unreasonable - you can’t protest that you wish to control others.

But of course the general public should be able to protest about the result of a democratic vote, as long as it's peaceful.
What's the point of the protest? What is it supposed to achieve?

Do they have a right to be rude, no but I can empathise their lack of patience after a while.

Well, I am all for us treating each other as humans, but I have to interject here.

If you are on the "dishing it out" end you might not be aware of this, but quite a few million people have just spent several years enduring a mixture of

1. Being called a nazi, far right, idiot, person who wants to kill the disabled, if you vote brexit or Tory

1. Being gloated both for the fact that their vote is literally being used to wipe MPs arises with, and the fact that they are simultaneously being presented as the fifth Reich

1. Let's not even get onto Momentum's treatment of other people during this election, let's pretend that whole ACTUAL NIGHTMARE FOR MANY PEOPLE doesn't count

The reality is that many of us have taken a lot of shit, and a lot of gloating about that shit, for several years to get us here. We have now won the vote and are perfectly entitled to say you know what, I don't want to hear any more insults.

What's the point of the protest? What is it supposed to achieve?

I guess people are just extremely unhappy, and want to be heard. Obviously it's not going to achieve much, just as the marches against Brexit didn't. Like I said, I understand people thinking that it is foolish and pointless.

What I don't understand is the mindset that people should not be allowed to protest. Even if it is silly. I find that thought terrifying, tbh.

It depends if they’ve been banging on about it for 3.5yrs (and still are to this day) AND telling people they are stupid and misinformed @KnowBetterDoBetter your analogies are completely and utterly different.

@Jillyhilly thank you!

What I find most insulting about the whole thing is that these comments are coming from labour, the party that is meant to understand the working class. The party that is meant to want to break down classism and give everyone an equal chance. Lib Dem’s and green aren’t making these comments. If this was ethnic minorities being told they were too stupid to chose wisely in the election, it wouldn’t be an inane and childish comment. It would be splashed all over the daily mail, someone would be losing their job and a task and finish group would be established to “work with those communities to better represent their views and interests”. However, it’s the north so fuck it.

It also assumes that everyone in the north is working class. Guys, keep up. We’ve got internet and everything now There is a high portion of middle class people in the north. Like there’s a high portion of working class people in London. The comment assumes that literally nobody in the North would Tory because they can’t possibly be middle class enough.

What I don't understand is the mindset that people should not be allowed to protest
Because what you’re protesting is other people’s right to choose their government. You’re saying they shouldn’t be allowed to disagree with you.

I don't like people who brag about winning .. HOWEVER .. it is annoying me on social media at the moment that people are still banging their anti-tory drum, sharing incessantly about how shit Boris/the tories/the voting system - whatever - are.

There are some parts of what they say that I agree with, but other parts that I don't.

As individual residents of the UK, we have done our bit, and have to accept (even if we do not like) the result of the election. We cannot change that now. No matter how much we share online about not liking Boris.

What we CAN do, and it's pretty much the ONLY thing we can do, is to make our little corner of the UK better. Be nice to each other, do well at work, see your family, make your children smile. Buy a drink for a homeless person. Give to the local food bank.

Some of the crap that's being posted on social media is vile. It's not helpful, not productive, and in many cases not mature.

I would never say "you lost, get over it", but I do think there are some people who I would have expected to conduct themselves a little better.

It depends if they’ve been banging on about it for 3.5yrs (and still are to this day) AND telling people they are stupid and misinformed @KnowBetterDoBetter your analogies are completely and utterly different.

Ok. If somebody calls you a turkey who has voted for Christmas (and/ or stupid and misinformed) then I understand how that would cause offence, and I would understand you being a bit childish and 'ner ner, I won' back.

I'm talking about people who just jump in when people are scared, they're not being offensive to you or fellow Tory voters, they're not provoking you into being so obnoxious. In these situations, why wouldn't you just scroll past? Surely then that's you taking somebody having a different opinion to you as a personal insult?