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Boris Watch - Thread 1

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chomalungma · 17/12/2019 19:11

Well, it's been done for Trump since he got elected.
No doubt some people will complain it's on AIBU - but it's a place with traffic.

So let's use this to keep an eye on the changes under Boris.

First Thing:

Boris introduces clause in the withdrawal agreement so the UK must leave with WTO rules if there is no trade agreement with the EU by the end of 2020

www.theguardian.com/business/2019/dec/17/pound-slides-to-pre-election-levels-in-wake-of-bid-to-outlaw-brexit-extension

Feel free to comment and add things that you notice changing. The Trump threads are at 97 now.

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Soen · 17/12/2019 21:54

PMK

Let's not forget Boris wants to end fixed term governments.

And damien green has said people should pay for social care insurance 'if they can afford it'.

Soen · 17/12/2019 21:57

Let's not forget about the radical overhaul of the civil service. As taken from the ITV article about the £33bn NHS pledge, the media didn't highlight this point much:

Meanwhile the Prime Minister’s chief adviser Dominic Cummings was reported to be preparing a radical overhaul of the Civil Service to ensure it delivers on Mr Johnson’s agenda.

According to The Sunday Telegraph, Mr Cummings is planning to review the way officials are hired and fired, while The Sunday Times reported departments could be abolished and civil servants replaced by outside experts.

Soen · 17/12/2019 21:59

When people 'get bored of talking politics', that's how governments get away with corruption. A reliance on apathy is all that is required.

catdoctor · 17/12/2019 22:00

Checking in

chomalungma · 17/12/2019 22:05

When people 'get bored of talking politics', that's how governments get away with corruption. A reliance on apathy is all that is required

In case people are interested:

Amy Siskind in the USA has been doing a weekly list of all the changes in the USA since Trump got elected.

It's interesting

theweeklylist.org/

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Soen · 17/12/2019 22:08

Here's more exciting things that make it difficult for Boris and his cabinet of thieves to be held accountable for. Sorry for the pay wall

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-accused-of-planning-revenge-on-courts-tcxp9xjpj

CendrillonSings · 17/12/2019 22:10

Well, since we’re so keen on facts, we might as well start off these threads with some statistics on the election that led to the new Conservative administration:

  1. The highest number of Tory seats since 1987.
  2. The lowest number of Labour seats since 1935.
  3. A Tory vote share of 43.6%, the highest for any party since Thatcher’s 43.9% in 1979, beating Blair’s 43.2% in 1997.
  4. The lowest number of new seats gained by Labour ever.
  5. The first incumbent government to gain seats after losing them in the preceding election since 1865.

Now go back to underestimating Boris Smile

Soen · 17/12/2019 22:10

Thanks for the link Choma

refraction · 17/12/2019 22:11

Thanks for this thread.

Soen · 17/12/2019 22:11

Yawn, Cendrillon, we know these things. Now we're scrutinising what's happened since the 13th. Do keep up.

Coppersulphate · 17/12/2019 22:12

I want to say that I am entirely happy with Boris as PM. I voted for him as did millions of others which is why he has such a big majority .

He promised to get Brexit done and he is delivering.

chomalungma · 17/12/2019 22:13

Those are facts@CendrillonSings

So from those facts, let's just keep an eye on the changes that Johnson is going to make in his new Government.

Always good to ensure that the public are informed and can keep track.

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chomalungma · 17/12/2019 22:14

I want to say that I am entirely happy with Boris as PM

Good. Then you will no doubt be following this thread and adding links as he does things and gets Brexit done.

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Alsohuman · 17/12/2019 22:18

He promised to get Brexit done and he is delivering

How much has he achieved since Thursday?

Soen · 17/12/2019 22:18

Watch this space Copper, and be careful what you wish for.

Anyone else find it strange that all I'm doing is posting links to what the Tories have planned. Not even really giving much of an opinion on it whilst I'm doing it. Just merely presenting the links I've found which are easily accessible online. And yet, brexiteers have jumped on the thread, not to discuss these things but just to add that they are happy with their vote. Hmm

Have you nothing to comment about the links Cendrillon and Copper? Thought they may interest (and delight) you. But you both seem to have nothing to say on these matters either way.

WeArnottamused · 17/12/2019 22:18

Shall watch this thread with interest -

.........lurks in the shadows

TheSultanofPingu · 17/12/2019 22:19

Thanks for starting this thread Op.
Hope it's the first of many.

Peregrina · 17/12/2019 22:20

By all means post things that he achieves. Although he hasn't yet got Brexit done so that's not one he can tick off just yet.

An interesting statistic is that the Tory vote share only went up by 1.2%.
There is such a thing as hubris:
6 months ago Farage was crowing about the number of MEPs he had. MPs in Parliament =0.
In the previous Parliament the DUP mattered - now, two seats lost so that Nationalist parties are slightly bigger in NI and a border in the Irish Sea promised.

Events, dear boy, events, as MacMillan didn't say.

chomalungma · 17/12/2019 22:21

Hope it's the first of many

I suspect it will get to 97 before the Trump one did...

But then again, Trump did a LOT in his first few months. And his tweets were something else to discuss Grin

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HeIenaDove · 17/12/2019 22:21

Ah @Soen Get ready to be told that they dont want to read your "pointless" links. Happens to me on social housing threads all time.

CendrillonSings · 17/12/2019 22:22

Soen

I look forward to Boris giving the heave-ho to entire mountains of lefty bullshit. Have fun cataloguing it all over the next five years Smile

Soen · 17/12/2019 22:24

I just thought the ardent brexiteers would highlight the positives of the links posted on here. Discuss how these are all wonderful things. I might post them on the Brexit Arms and see if I get more jubilant feedback Wink

Peregrina · 17/12/2019 22:24

To be replaced by Boris bullshit.

Still give credit where its due - he won the willy waving contest between himself and Nigel Farage.

chomalungma · 17/12/2019 22:26

Have fun cataloguing it all over the next five years

It will be a pleasure. Always good to be able to look back at the archives in a few years time and track changes.

The threads on the Brexit topic are fascinating.

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