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fairytale new york homophobia disguised christmas cheer

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Ontheboardwalk · 16/12/2019 22:57

This is my Christmas song, Christmas starts when I hear this song. Kirsty MacColl sounds fabulous.

It’s all over the newspapers again about the outrage.

Shane MacGowan has explained a million times what the word faggot means in his life and this song. There’s no harm in the song

AIBU that outrage at this word finishes and everyone should all sing along together to a great tune

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DarlingNikita · 20/12/2019 11:36

What's your point, Pumper? That if no one can come up with a current example of 'faggot' used as a general insult, you're right and you've won? Or something else?

Pumperthepumper · 20/12/2019 11:49

No - if it’s ridiculous to be offended by the word of Faggot meaning ‘idiot’ in the context of the song, then name some current people who would be considered a faggot under the same context. Someone in the public eye, for example.

Pumperthepumper · 20/12/2019 11:51

you're right and you've won?

Sorry, meant to add - yes. If people aren’t comfortable using the word ‘faggot’, in the song context, by stating David X is a faggot, then I’d suggest they’re probably more uncomfortable with the word than they are claiming to be.

So who’s a faggot?

PuppyMonkey · 20/12/2019 11:56

The thing that upsets me most about this song is that apparently there’s no such thing as the NYPD Choir. That bit was just made up.Xmas Sad

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 20/12/2019 12:06

I’m just listening to the radio and they started playing Have yourself a Merry little Christmas. Have you heard the words?!

^Have yourself a merry little Christmas, make the Yuletide gay
From now on our troubles will be miles away^

Finishes with
^From now on our troubles will be out of sight
Have yourself a merry little Christmas, make the Yuletide gay^

It’s obviously being used as conversion therapy. LGB want us to catch the gay! 😱 Clutches bible to chest while phoning friend to let her know she’s no longer welcome in my house. Bloody hetrobigots! They can pretend it had a different meaning, but we know.....oh yes...we know.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 20/12/2019 12:07

So who’s a faggot?

🤐

Pumperthepumper · 20/12/2019 12:09

Why the zippy mouth?

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 20/12/2019 12:10

Why the zippy mouth?

😉

Pumperthepumper · 20/12/2019 12:11

Still not seeing your list of faggots T0tally 🧐

DarlingNikita · 20/12/2019 12:12

OK. Who do I think is an idiot who's currently famous, that's the question, yes?

Ricky Gervais.
Matt Hancock.
(keeping it short for the sake of my typing fingers and brevity).

I'm still not sure I'm following the point/argument.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 20/12/2019 12:14

Still not seeing your list of faggots T0tally

Too subtle. Ah well. 🤷‍♀️

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 20/12/2019 12:16

I'm still not sure I'm following the point/argument.

I think the point has been laboured over so often, that no one cares anymore. 😁

DarlingNikita · 20/12/2019 12:20

I think the point has been laboured over so often, that no one cares anymore.
Possibly, yes Grin

Pumperthepumper · 20/12/2019 12:23

But you’ve missed out the ‘faggot’ part! Why?

DarlingNikita · 20/12/2019 12:41

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T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 20/12/2019 12:52

My sincere apologies LadyChatterleysHoover. I hope my literal violence on your ds hasn’t caused too much harm. I hope he finds comfort in his safe place. 😔

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 20/12/2019 12:54

Is that right? Does it prove your point (which I still don't get)

I don’t think pumper understands his/her point, tbf. 😁

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 20/12/2019 12:55

Guess what is being played on the radio, right now, with the original and correct words. 🥳

ShelbyCherryBlossom · 20/12/2019 12:55

Jesus listen to some Kanye.

Freesunglasses · 20/12/2019 13:35

@Pumperthepumper listen to a bit of Eminem, you'd be in offended heaven lass!

CrissmussMockers · 20/12/2019 16:56

The Definitive History of the Song:

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0074f8x/the-story-of-fairytale-of-new-york

Seems it was Ronan Keating's manager who wasn't having any faggots.

MyBlueMoonbeam · 23/12/2019 12:57

@LoisWilkersonsLastNerve

Sending hugs your way 💖

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