To think that Stephen Kinnock should run for labour leader?

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I'm a leftie but I think to stand any chance to appeal to a broader range of voters labour needs to reign it in a bit.

Mr Kinnock is much more left of centre, campaigned to remain in the ref but was of the opinion that we must leave to preserve democracy.

Thoughts?

I thought anything inherited was anethema to the Left?

I think his main problem is his surname.

As a floating voter, I'd much prefer to see Yvette Cooper, Keir Starmer and thought it was a real shame they pushed Chuka Umuna out.

YANBU but only because he'll carry on the Corbyn tradition of keeping the Labour Party out of number 10.

Too much baggage. Any labour leader is going to be relentlessly attacked in the press. We have to find someone with less built in ammunition. They’ll find anything, though. It’s depressing. Look at Miliband - couldn’t find anything proper so attacked his method of eating a sandwich.

Umunna wasn’t pushed out. He left because he was more interested in his own power grab than the people of the country or the party that got him into parliament.

Look at Miliband - couldn’t find anything proper so attacked his method of eating a sandwich.

And attacked his father for things he didn’t say.

Any labour leader is going to be relentlessly attacked in the press.

It’s so wrong though, isn’t it?

Tory PMs can burn £50 notes in front of homeless people and stick their cocks in a pig’s head, yet that’s just FINE and ‘my, aren’t they cheeky posh boys having their japes?!’

He seems very unpopular in the north.
A lot of people don't like the career politition family aspect and there is the view that the whole Kinnock family profited greatly from the 'EU gravy train'
They need to find a leader who appears to the left and the centre. It is going to be a very hard job.
Take Lisa Nandy for example. She is quite unpopular in Wigan. I like her personally and think she listens and cares but her initial stance on Brexit has made her unpopular and people are slow to forget
There is a similar oppinion of Andy Burham in Wigan and Leigh too.

No. Career politicians without much merit of their own trading off their parents’ legacy won’t go down well.

Yes - it’s insane - cocks in pigs heads is forgivable, the eating of a bacon sandwich is a character assassination.
It’s all just so so mental.
Agree with previous posters - whoever takes the reins will have to be clean as a whistle and basically right wing or it int gonna happen!

I agree with you, OP. He appeals to a far wider demographic than Rebecca Long Bailey who would just offer more of the same.

I think Stephen Kinnock's instincts are sound and more in tune with the mainstream. The new leader must be prepared to roll up their sleeves and make some very difficult decisions on how to reshape and reform the party to make it electable. He has some insight about how to do this - his father managed to expel Militant Tendency and did the Labour Party a massive favour. Those who deride Kinnock Sr forget that.

I'm a Northerner. He's not unpopular in my part of the world.

God no. The Kinnocks have been on the EU gravy train for a long time - they are part of the reason people feel disillusioned with it. I can't see him appealing to leave voters, Which is what the Labour party needs to do if it is going to regain support.

Also his wife is the former Danish PM and didn't she say something along the lines of sahm wasting their education and not contributing to their nation? I think that would go down like a bucket of cold sick with UK voters.

The next Labour leader shouldn't be anyone who supported a People's Vote - that was a major factor of the defeats in the north - which rules out Kinnock (and Jess Phillips)

hang on - Stephen Kinnock was opposed to a 2nd Referendum. And yes, I would love to see him as Labour leader, he seems like a thoroughly decent, thoughtful, person.

I alway laugh at the career politician label- Jeremy was one! But he’s done working class hero

I am not sure about SK I do like him but I don’t think he’s the strongest candidate

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Lisa Nandy isn’t that unpopular in Wigan - she got re-elected when other nearby Labour MPs didn’t...
It’s going to be a difficult choice and time needs to be taken, which is why it’s a good idea that Corbyn doesn’t stand down until it’s done. More pressure due to not having a leader at all would be counterproductive.

Not sure about thoroughly decent. There were some dodgy tax issues with his wife claiming he was residing in Denmark and him claiming he didn't, according to what was most financially beneficial to them. Also claims that he hid his child's £29, 000 per year private school fees when standing for MP in Wales. I also don't think they live in his constituency, which maybe won't go down well.

If she hasn't lost her seat, Caroline Flint would have been an excellent choice.

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I equate the Kinnocks with the whole EU gravy train and £,000,000 pensions.

Someone unsullied by their parents would probably have broader appeal.

I heard him on the radio a couple of years back explaining what Labour's problems are (quite similar to what he said on QT the other night.) I think he has a real grasp on what core Labour voters want and what is important to them. He also understands that many core Labour supporters are small 'c' conservative.

I think he'd be brilliant.

I watched him on the special, post-election Question Time, and I thought he came over well. I would like to hear more from the other potential candidates as well.

I am considering joining the Labour Party, in order to have a say in the choice of leader this time round - we need a strong Opposition, that speaks for all those left out/left behind by the Tories, over the next five years, and we need a Labour party that has a chance of winning next time - which means a leader who understands that the Labour party needs to be a broad church that includes the moderates and centrists, not just the hard left.

It’s got to be someone who has broad appeal to remainers and leavers. As a life long Labour voter I could not support a Lexiter.

He'd be ripped apart because of his wife as well. Every policy she supported in Denmark, such as relaxing anti immigration rules, working with the furthest left party (Green) in coalition, increasing tax revenue through offering tax cuts to the highest earners, along with the investigation into his tax status that was concluded with no fraud found, would be used as proof that he was the herald of a plot to flood the country with immigrants, make billions from tax frauds, etc, etc.

I daresay they'd try to find some sort of racism/antisemitism somewhere as well, claim that he was a secret Militant Labourite, loads about his parents, have photos of him at dos with his wife where she met people who were rich and powerful, etc, etc.

Mind you, if the original JC reappeared and wanted to become Labour leader, he'd be painted as this dodgy immigrant from a teenaged single mother wanting to steal the food from the mouths of the children of the temple traders (and next, he's coming for YOURS), showing communist tendencies by feeding so many people, causing wholesale ecological disaster by pillaging the fish from the Sea, putting hardworking fishermen out of business, causing crops to fail by stopping rain so he could perform his magic trick of standing on the water and, worst of all, posing a threat to the functioning of the NHS by performing healing free of charge. Oh, and despite being UNMARRIED and HANGING OUT WITH FISHERMEN, also being seen with his Very Close Friend Mary Magdalene who has been rumoured to have a dubious source of income, associating with the known anarchist that is his cousin John and threatening to steal YOUR WEEKEND by saying it's OK to work on the Sabbath by picking a few grains to eat.

He'd also clearly be portrayed as an Antisemite.