To think that this isn't the best outfit for school?!

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Went into school for an assembly on our school's Christmas jumper day & one of the staff had a jumper dress on & boot style shoes (photos attached from a website so not actual staff member).

Aibu in thinking that it isn't really appropriate) practical for school when you're teaching small children?

I know "clothes are clothes" & all that but can't help feeling this was a bit much.

Meh.
It’s clothes.

Miss C who taught DS reception 20yrs ago would have rocked that. I’d have gone with the long red nails. She was a “ slip of a thing and only about 12” but she could deal with reception kids better than others we’ve had.

Part if my thinks inappropriate At secondary but the other part thinks - even hormonal teenage boys need to realise clothes are clothes , she’s still a fully functional teacher and to be treated with respect as are all people in all situations regardless of appearance.

bent over desks to help with work ffs it's not a Benny Hill sketch. Taught for 20 years, bent over a desk - never. You crouch, if really required. I'm guessing on Christmas jumper days there would be previous little work happening so even less need for this bending across desk nonsense.
I've seen more male staff who seemed to enjoy the attention of teenagers than I ever have female, incidentally. Their clothes are never criticised though.

Its longer than the skirts girls at our local Comprehensile wear.

And just when you thought this thread was sexist enough along comes Sawwhet to add a certain rape-apologist je ne sais quoi to the discussion.

If she wore that to a secondary school all she'd get are teen boys leering over her as she bent over desks to help with work, and they will assume she wants that attention and is aware of it. But you never know, she might enjoy getting sexual attention from teen boys, some women do

Wtf. She's a primary school teacher, how can you project it to teaching at secondary school, wanting sexual attention from teen boys and bending over their desks. That's sick. And not what this situation is at all.

Gosh it would seem a bit chilly to me but that's it. It covers up her nipples, bum and vag so fine by me.

Booboo, I would never apologise for rape. You can want attention without wanting to be touched. You might want to be like looked at and wanted, but not anything else. I mean come on, if I go out in a short dress I know I'm gonna get sexual attention, I know my legs and curves are attractive, doesn't mean anyone has the right to touch me, though I can't stop them looking. Hardly sick, there was one teacher at my secondary school just like that, obviously had a crush on this one boy she taught.

Accuse me of anything you like, saying someone deserves to be raped isn't the same as admitting some people like sexual attention is it?

i've seen more male staff who seemed to enjoy the attention of teenagers than I ever have female, incidentally. Their clothes are never criticised though. well maybe they should be? We all used to try and judge the size of male teacher's dicks based on how tight their trousers were etc, I mean you could argue having your dick outline visible isnt appropriate when you have young girls in the front desk staring at it who have a crush on you. I've never seen a male teacher with his shirt unbuttoned so far that you can see his breast tissue or chest muscles, seen plenty of female teachers with push up bras and a belt on the waist, few buttons undone to really accentuate them. It's not the same. Don't think any teacher at my school that was male wore anything except a shirt and trousers, nothing on show (bar the dick outline on some well endowed teachers let's say)

OP is slut shaming, how nice.

Sawwhet it’s difficult to know where to start with all that, and depressingly it sounds like you are a young person and still have these outdated sexist attitudes.

Nobody’s clothes should be criticized for being too sexual and no one should be treated merely as a sexual object. The problem is you. You should not have been thinking of your teachers as dicks nor judging them for how tight their trousers were nor trying to guess the size of their dicks from their outline. They were not putting on a sex show, they were trying to teach you. People’s bodies are not on show for your titillation or gossip. Women don’t wear short skirts to provoke your sexual attention or attraction, they wear short skirts because they want to.

No one is forcing you to behave in a sexist way because they wear clothes you find provocative, you are behaving badly all by yourself.

I don’t think it’s appropriate and I say this as a teacher myself. We have a level of professionalism to uphold and I don’t think this outfit is professional at all. Spare time- fine but at work, it should have been worn with thick tights or leggings.

Nobody’s clothes should be criticized for being too sexual

I think it’s perfectly reasonable to criticise clothes for being inappropriate though, especially in a professional setting.
Teachers shouldn’t be wearing short skirts and low cut tops. Male teachers have to wear smart and appropriate clothes so why shouldn’t women.

There is a huge difference between ‘I can wear what I want and not deserve to be raped’ which is true, and ‘I can wear what I want whenever I want’ which is bullshit!

There is a huge difference between ‘I can wear what I want and not deserve to be raped’ which is true, and ‘I can wear what I want whenever I want’ which is bullshit!
I agree.
Many workplaces have dress codes and expectations of staff, regardless of how many people on Mumsnet say "in my work I can wear jeans because we're valued for our brains not our looks" (as if other places don't value professional competence).

I could wear pretty much what I wanted in a previous job. Now I'm in schools I follow the school expectations and dress code. My hairdresser's salon all wear black. Friends in early years can wear black bottoms and the nursery polo shirt. My friend's work expects all workers (men and women) to be very groomed, formal busines dress etc.
It's not rocket science to work out that different contexts have different expectations. It's possible to realise this without saying women are asking to be viewed as sex objects or being a rape apologist.

Women don’t wear short skirts to provoke your sexual attention or attraction, they wear short skirts because they want to.

Speak for yourself, but when I put on a short skirt that shows off my body it's because I think it looks sexy, maybe you don't but that doesn't no woman does.

As for "thinking of your teachers as dicks" I didn't. I thought of them as men who were teachers, and men have dicks, and I used to fantasise about seducing the hot ones, and if you think it's weird for teen girls to find adult teachers hot or think about them sexually then I find you out of touch "They are there to teach you" no shit, really? Surprisingly being ther to teach you doesn't stop people noticing your sex appeal does it?

I'm 100% sure she would have been wearing shorts or something underneath and not wanting to flash hundreds of children, so what exactly about her legs are not appropriate? Should she hide them? How does her dress affect her teaching or your child's day?

No one is forcing you to behave in a sexist way because they wear clothes you find provocative, you are behaving badly all by yourself.

But I thought women couldn't be sexist about men just like black people can't be racist to white people. Power imbalance they say right? So what I thought about my male teachers is hardly sexist is it. I'm not saying "They are a man and therefore X" I'm saying "they are fit". So idk where you got me being sexist against these men from.

They were not putting on a sex show
Neither are some of the hot as fuck women I see walking down the street. Doesn't stop me noticing their body. Weirdly enough nobody needs to put on a sex show to have sex appeal.

Our school has a TA who wears little frocks and massive high heels everyday. She looks amazing and most importantly she’s a fab TA who usually has about 12 little kids hanging off her.

Why are so many women so obsessed with what other women wear?