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To think it’s utterly disgraceful that Corbyn hasn’t resigned

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Bearbehind · 13/12/2019 19:19

The man is the reason the Labour Party didn’t stand a chance in the GE

Yet today he doesn’t even have the good grace or integrity to step aside

Is their anyone at all who supports him in that decision?

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 18/12/2019 13:04

It's like talking to a brick

It is indeed, Derxa

My hope is that the bulk of the Labour membership are a little less blinkered, but worryingly I'm not seeing it so far

MarshaBradyo · 18/12/2019 13:06

I haven’t been encouraged on here that the Corbyn end are listening that’s for sure.

TheBlueStocking · 18/12/2019 13:19

It's like talking to a brick

I presume you mean talking to someone who refuses to agree with you. Sorry, I don't agree with you.

But my mum will be made up when I tell her she didn't actually go to court or struggle for money or worry about losing her house. In fact, I can tell her she didn't actually move house because there was no bedroom tax that upended her. She'll kick herself!

jewel1968 · 18/12/2019 15:11

Not sure why people are fixated on the leader. It is a party with members and processes. I honestly think people are getting too worked up about it. Tories could you be gracious winners. Labour voters are hurting now and you seem to be revelling in it which is unseemly.

astralweaks · 18/12/2019 16:11

He has no shame.

astralweaks · 18/12/2019 16:13

Perhaps the Labour voters who had no alternative but to vote Conservative - in protest at the Labour leadership - may be “hurting” too.

noblegiraffe · 18/12/2019 16:16

There were other options to voting Conservative and Labour so that argument doesn’t wash.

noblegiraffe · 18/12/2019 16:18

People who are pissed off at Labour have every right to be, but I can’t see a vote for the Conservatives as a natural protest vote.

TheBlueStocking · 18/12/2019 16:22

@jewel1968

He's just a convenient scapegoat, sadly.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 18/12/2019 16:29

Not sure why people are fixated on the leader. It is a party with members and processes

I agree, and while it's true that an alleged "man of principle" would have gone instantly, it's also why some of us are focusing on the party's decisions overall

However dreadful, Corbyn is just one man - but the processes and mindsets which repeatedly elected and defend him are a symptom of the malaise gripping the party, and that's what many would like to see changed

Katharinblum · 18/12/2019 16:33

Exactly - casting the tories as the natural protest vote is ludicrous. I appreciate that labour may have taken their northern w/c constituencies for granted but why vote for the party that implemented austerity, failed to invest in those areas and in earlier years happily destroyed major industries there. It's like the previous 10 years never existed. Cannily boris johnson distanced himself from the previous government and presented hinself as a new force for change which he obviously wasn't !

noblegiraffe · 18/12/2019 16:34

People are fixated on the leader because he has been responsible for a lot of the mess.

The prevaricating over Brexit
The not dealing properly with antisemitism
The failing to communicate his manifesto properly
The dubious people he has called friends (from Chris Williamson to Hamas)

And now failing to take proper responsibility for the worst Labour election result since 1935. Won the argument ffs.

astralweaks · 18/12/2019 17:00

Blair was scathing about him and the rest of the cabal. Totally agree with him.

TheBlueStocking · 18/12/2019 17:01

And John Major was extremely scathing about the Conservative party.

astralweaks · 18/12/2019 17:02

Voting Tory was the biggest protest vote of all! Can’t you see that?Confused

astralweaks · 18/12/2019 17:03

Major is not the subject of this thread, though, is he?

jewel1968 · 18/12/2019 17:06

I don't agree - one man is not responsible. It is a party with democratic processes and any failure is a joint failure.

jewel1968 · 18/12/2019 17:11

'Perhaps the Labour voters who had no alternative but to vote Conservative - in protest at the Labour leadership - may be “hurting” too.:

Are you hurting because you voted Tory and now have a Tory government? Surely that what you wanted or expected?

noblegiraffe · 18/12/2019 17:24

It is a party with democratic processes

Corbyn refused to stand down when he was massively no-confidenced by his MPs.

If he had stood down then, things would look very different now.

TheBlueStocking · 18/12/2019 17:45

If he had stood down then, things would look very different now.

We'd just have a different scapegoat and Corbyn would be being blamed for stepping down.

TheBlueStocking · 18/12/2019 17:45

Major is not the subject of this thread, though, is he?

Neither is Tony Blair.

noblegiraffe · 18/12/2019 18:13

We'd just have a different scapegoat

Well it would depend on whether the person who took over was more competent and had fewer skeletons in their closet.

astralweaks · 18/12/2019 18:19

jewel1968

I did not vote Tory. HTH

astralweaks · 18/12/2019 18:20

Corbyn just thinks he can “tough” - lol - it out. Like a sort of bearded superglue. Embarrassing.

astralweaks · 18/12/2019 18:23

TheBlueStocking

Major is not the subject of this thread, though, is he?

Neither is Tony Blair.

Blair was a Labour PM. Don’t you recall?