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To think it’s utterly disgraceful that Corbyn hasn’t resigned

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Bearbehind · 13/12/2019 19:19

The man is the reason the Labour Party didn’t stand a chance in the GE

Yet today he doesn’t even have the good grace or integrity to step aside

Is their anyone at all who supports him in that decision?

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Witchend · 16/12/2019 20:14

I'm neither Labour nor Tory.

It was a choice between the frying pan and the fire as far as I could see with those two leading.

But we haven't had a strong PM for ages. But the opposition leader has been worse and that is why the Tories keep getting in.
We need a strong opposition leader to challenge the main party. Without a strong opposition, the main party doesn't need to be strong or really think much about what they're doing.

The not resigning is another sign of lack of strength. He doesn't have the faith in his convictions that the Labour party will elect someone he likes. It shouldn't be about what he likes anyway.

Name me one other leader that has had such a crushing defeat and hasn't immediately stood down?
Even when it hasn't been their fault, they've stood down. Now in this case him and his cronies have been a good proportion of their defeat and he still doesn't stand down.
That is disgraceful.

TheBlueStocking · 16/12/2019 20:16

I don't consider ten million against thirteen million to be a crushing defeat. And that ten million isn't counting those who voted Green, Lib Dems etc. It's not crushing at all.

CendrillonSings · 16/12/2019 20:17

What about 365 MPs vs. 203? Still not crushing? Grin

TheBlueStocking · 16/12/2019 20:18

Not, as I've already said, that being on the winning side grants you impunity against having had made horrific decisions. And now those horrific decisions will continue to be made. And the poorest and the most vulnerable will continue to suffer. Grand.

TheBlueStocking · 16/12/2019 20:20

No, I don't think more than fifty percent of the voters not voting Conservative to be crushing. But you tell yourself it is, if you like.

MitziK · 16/12/2019 20:20

Just because Cameron decided after insisting he'd be there to Get Brexit Done, that it was going to be a veritable shitshow and sauntered off whistling into the sunset, that doesn't mean buggering off immediately is the best course of action.

May didn't drop everything and fuck off on another walking holiday immediately after realising she wouldn't ever get agreement on anything whilst Johnson was around to vote against her, she took time before actually finishing work as PM.

Swinson didn't have a job anymore because she'd lost her seat.

For the vast majority of employers of any type, the person who fucks off immediately rather than working out their notice, is more of a liability than the one who stays until the replacement has been recruited. This is ostensibly leading a political party. Which is a pretty big job, I think - and as the result of the choice for another will take time and inevitably result in a huge personnel change in the organisation, it's more appropriate to stay until said replacement has been sourced.

OldSpeclkledHen · 16/12/2019 20:24

Finally! Just shows what an actual twat he is .... SO FUCKING glad he didn't win

OldSpeclkledHen · 16/12/2019 20:25

And please, let's get Brexit done and focus on real pressing issues like the NHS being sorted

TheBlueStocking · 16/12/2019 20:34

Yes, the NHS being sorted. That must be why all the doctors and nurses are now so universally relieved.

TheBlueStocking · 16/12/2019 20:37

I'm sure the doctor who was a Labour candidate for Cheadle is thrilled that he's lost. Now all the homeless people he's been desperately campaigning to protect have been saved from him. What a relief.

Justanotherlurker · 16/12/2019 20:41

No, I don't think more than fifty percent of the voters not voting Conservative to be crushing. But you tell yourself it is, if you like.

Ah, so you jump to the next momentum point.

Everyone understood the rules before the GE, but now the cons have won you somehow think it's irrelevant to labour because of some arbitrary percentage, maybe you should add in all those who didn't vote as well to bump up the numbers in your favour.

The fact you include the 'Yellow Tory's' and BXP in your new found metric is showing how much self reflection you have.

You keep telling yourself that everyone else is wrong, it obviously worked wonders for this election, if you double down it will only improve matters. You are really showcasing your superior intellect so far on this thread.

astralweaks · 16/12/2019 20:44

He’s a rotten limpet.

Justanotherlurker · 16/12/2019 20:46

And please, let's get Brexit done and focus on real pressing issues like the NHS being sorted

Is that like the russian leaked doc that the NHS is up for sale (that didn't say it at all), and Labour and Momentum pretended again we only have 24 hours to save the NHS?

So much lashing out going on, the so called intelligent side of the debate is having a hard time displaying their intelligence and just keep repeating failed momentum talking points so far.

RaiseaGlasstoFreedom · 16/12/2019 20:48

But blue stocking, it depends which ones you talk too.

Many are very much relieved.

Dominic Cummings is going to stream line defence spending, I'm hoping Dominic also turns his laser like clarity on the NHS to sort out that bloated spending too.

Why is the NHS serving weetabix brand? I can't afford that.

TheBlueStocking · 16/12/2019 20:54

Why is the NHS serving weetabix brand? I can't afford that.

You're being unintentionally very funny.

RaiseaGlasstoFreedom · 16/12/2019 20:55

Media bias... The same media that hid the groundswell of dissatisfaction of labour and the eu for years, then failed to predict the tory landslide? The media that hates corbyn so much 🙄literally had no idea about this?. The chanel 4 stunt with melting ice the Andrew Neil stunt on bbc?.
The sheer disgust that ebbed through every pore when Andrew marr spoke to Boris...

The lefty lovies using every single platform they have by sheer luck to promote corbyn with the media gladly following them... And the host game shows all ridiculing Boris..

RaiseaGlasstoFreedom · 16/12/2019 20:57

I'm really glad you find that amusing.

Anyway.. There is no point arguing on here.

CharlottesPleb · 16/12/2019 21:08

Oh well. Best to vote for the party who lets people die, so long as it's not Jeremy Corbyn. Sure, that makes a lot of sense.

It definitely does.

His links to, and public praise of the IRA during active terrorist campaign against British citizens is reason enough to disqualify him for all sorts of low level positions of responsibility, not to mention Lockerbie and so on, and he has recent, active links to states like Iran, but we're going to give him access to state secrets, the nuclear deterrent, the locations of current spies and our former counter terrorist personnel, and a million other highly sensitive things for our forces, our public services, our families?

It may not be top of everyone's list, but since people mention it no, Boris Johnson was not in the running on that particular score.

Justanotherlurker · 16/12/2019 21:09

Anyway.. There is no point arguing on here.

You can, you just have to remember they have difficulty going off script.

TheBlueStocking · 16/12/2019 21:12

If you want to troll hunt, I suggest you do it the proper way and report it to MNHQ.

noblegiraffe · 16/12/2019 21:13

Name me one other leader that has had such a crushing defeat and hasn't immediately stood down?

Theresa May suffered so many crushing defeats and didn’t step down it was ridiculous. Her government was found in contempt of parliament, her major piece of legislation didn’t pass etc etc. Johnson was found to have lied to the Queen, his prorogation of Parliament was overturned by the courts and he didn’t step down. I do wonder if the normal order has been overturned in politics and not stepping down and taking responsibility for your disasters or even being held accountable for them is the new way. Total humiliation? Just keep on trucking.

Justanotherlurker · 16/12/2019 21:17

If you want to troll hunt, I suggest you do it the proper way and report it to MNHQ.

I'm not troll hunting, I am pointing out you have difficulty going off script.

That isn't calling you a troll.

Anyway, I am glad you answered how labour didn't suffer the wipeout it did when you include the 'yellow Tory's' and BXP party to prop up the numbers.

Justanotherlurker · 16/12/2019 21:21

Theresa May suffered so many crushing defeats and didn’t step down it was ridiculous.

Come on, to be fair she knew she was a dead man walking, everyone understands what the pp was referring to, it was after such a crushing defeat after an election.

Lets keep this slightly honest.

Justanotherlurker · 16/12/2019 21:27

posted too soon, the thread is about why Corbyn hasn't stood down already.

If you can name a politician who suffered defeat so badly and stayed on, name a politician that sufffered even a moderate defeate and stayed on, it is trying to be spun in momentum circles as him taking the flack, the same circles are wanting to promote a corbynista to take power.

There doesn't even need to be a comparable to the Tories, this is about Corbyn losing 2 GE and one being historic, what reason is there for him to stick around, why is Milne sticking around...

noblegiraffe · 16/12/2019 21:28

In the normal course of things, Theresa May would have stepped down. So would have Johnson. Things aren’t even remotely normal any more. Politicians lie with no comeback, don’t have any personal integrity, and don’t seem to understand when it is time to go (Corbyn should have gone MUCH sooner than this).