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Genuinely feeling mortified for Jo Swinson

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Considermesometimes · 13/12/2019 10:55

Wow that was kick in the balls if ever I have seen one. Jesus how absolutely humiliating. I was curling up just watching the footage last night, and then the clip about her claims that she will be PM.

Just mortifying on every level.

I hope she is able to leave with a shred of dignity, because I am not sure she is ever going to recover her creditability after last night's carnage. She was seriously out of touch, and she paid the ultimate price.

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Gingerkittykat · 13/12/2019 12:21

I hope she is able to leave with a shred of dignity

Nope, too late for that. She has made a complete fool out of herself.

In one of the interviews it talked about how lib dems would abolish the bedroom tax, then when asked if her voting for the BT 9 times as part of a coalition made her partly responsible said no.

A woman heading a party with absolutely no principles.

(and I also agree with all of the self ID stuff)

dayoftheclownfish · 13/12/2019 12:22

Jo Swinson will be alright. She's got excellent connections, a fancy degree and she is still young. And even though I'm glad to see the back of her, being a politician is hard.

MistyCloud · 13/12/2019 12:23

Nope. I don't give a rat's tiny tittie about her.

cardibach · 13/12/2019 12:23

Deserves everything she got. Arrogant, self serving Tory in a yellow rosette.

BovaryX · 13/12/2019 12:25

asked if her voting for the BT 9 times as part of a coalition made her partly responsible said no. A woman heading a party with absolutely no principles

An incoherent politician defending an incoherent ideology. Wrong side of history Jo Swansong.

PineappleDanish · 13/12/2019 12:25

Wave to @ClaraThePigeon from my part of East Dunbartonshire.

Won't the rest of listen to what Clara and I are saying? The gender thing did not factor in most people's decision. East Dunbartonshire was strongly remain, and equally strongly NO to independence.

Here for the last decade it's been an out and out battle between Lib Dem and SNP. It's swung back and forward. Jo didn't have a massive majority to defend, she was always on a shoogly peg to use a Glasgow expression.

I voted for her yesterday because I knew it was a straight choice between Lib Dem and SNP. Labour, Conservative and the others were way, way behind. With the best will in the world, the Lib Dems were never going to be in government. They were never going to be in the position of pushing through the gender self ID nonsense anyway. Bit like Corbyns "free broadband and nationalise everything" - it's really easy to promise the earth when you're not in power. I voted for her to send a message that I don't want Brexit but I most certainly don't want independence either. Every single SNP vote is being taken today as an endorsement for yet another bloody referendum.

Here, locally, in my constituency people are talking about Brexit and Independence. Full stop. That's it. Plus the fact that Jo has apparently detached herself from the constituency, is living down south with her kids and is out of touch. Much has been made of her accent sounding more home counties than Glasgow. That has damaged her a LOT more than the gender thing, whatever MN likes to think.

misscockerspaniel · 13/12/2019 12:28

I don't feel sorry for her but I am thankful for her car crash interviews over the last week or so as she shone a light on the issue of self ID.

That said, given the LibDems clear stance on Brexit, I do wonder how many people didn't vote for her party simply because it had a woman as its leader.

cardibach · 13/12/2019 12:31

@Quaffy As an actual feminist (unlike Jo), I don’t take pleasure in seeing a woman torn down
I don’t see being feminist as supporting all women purely because they are women. If she had been torn down because she was female you would have a point, but she wasn’t. It was because she’s a crap politician. A record number of female MPs were elected, which is a cause for celebration even though I wouldn’t support all of them individually.

Isawthathaggis · 13/12/2019 12:32

The women never had a proper job.

I voted for her once (the first time she stood), it was a mistake.
SNP lady is a better candidate.

Figgygal · 13/12/2019 12:32

As a person I feel sorry for her she must be mortified however as a party leader she was awful and I voted lib dem despite her

cardibach · 13/12/2019 12:33

Bit like Corbyns "free broadband and nationalise everything"
No Pineapple, not at all like that. Labour could and would have done all that if voters hadn’t been convinced it was impossible and Brexit was good by a right wing, biased press. It’s sad you have so little belief in what you can and should be entitled to from a government.

Butchyrestingface · 13/12/2019 12:33

i hope she is able to leave with a shred of dignity, because I am not sure she is ever going to recover her creditability after last night's carnage

She couldn’t attend her own count with a shred of dignity. She went MIA for over an hour en route to the results and a 15 minute warning was eventually issued.

Going by Twitter, I thought they were going to have to send out divers. 😅

rhubarbcrumbles · 13/12/2019 12:34

No, not really. She had a job to do and she didn't achieve her objectives.

ClaraThePigeon · 13/12/2019 12:34

Waves back to PineappleDanish. Nice to see other E.D people on here. Also your name is really making me crave your pastry namesake. I haven't had one for ages.

Rosehip10 · 13/12/2019 12:35

Jo Swinson problem is that she is essentially Danny Alexander in a shift dress.

churchandstate · 13/12/2019 12:38

Who the fuck knighted Danny Alexander? 😂

SentimentalKiller · 13/12/2019 12:40

She deserves as much loss of dignity as the female prisoners forced to share a cell with a male prisoner

CareOfPunts · 13/12/2019 12:45

It must have been awful for her and she must be devastated, but she’s got no one to blame but herself.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 13/12/2019 12:47

Yes, I feel for her.

I wonder if she became a handy scapegoat, too, by the other (male led) parties who conveniently didn't have to grapple with the blunt end of the GRA/Self ID questions because they tactfully ignored them. While Swinson found herself floundering, painted into a corner over a really nonsensical ideology.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 13/12/2019 12:47

"Considering her comments about self ID, she deserves this and more. She was a lunatic."

@bluebells1 is 100% right. Jo's policy on self-ID threw women and girls under the bus, in order to appease the trans activists. I only voted LibDem because it was the least worst option in my constituency, but I refuse to feel sad that she has lost her seat - it is no more than she deserves.

I would like to think that it might make her stop and think about why it happened - and I fully intend to write to her and to the LibDem party, explaining my views - but I doubt she will backtrack now she has drunk the Kool-Aid.

koshkat · 13/12/2019 12:48

I have zero sympathy for her. She is a dangerous fool and happily would have put women in harm's way.

Election2019 · 13/12/2019 12:51

I think she is completely to blame for losing her seat and Lib Dems not doing any better. I don’t take pleasure in her fall but believe she is responsible for it.

MythicalBiologicalFennel · 13/12/2019 12:52

At least Jo Swinson now knows what a woman is -

an adult human female with a vote

Loving this.

I wonder what lessons the Libdems will learn from last night?

BennyTheBall · 13/12/2019 12:54

Don’t feel remotely sorry for her. She got exactly what she deserved.

GCAcademic · 13/12/2019 12:55

I would like to think that it might make her stop and think about why it happened - and I fully intend to write to her and to the LibDem party, explaining my views - but I doubt she will backtrack now she has drunk the Kool-Aid.

You’re wasting your time. The Lib Dems aren’t going to change track on this, not while they have people like Sal Brinston, Layla Moran and Helen Belcher orchestrating these policies. As a small party they were ripe for entryism by transactivists, and this is the result. Plus, modern day liberalism is all about individuality and neoliberalism, they have no kind of structural analysis that recognises the needs of females as a class.

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