So who's going to replace Corbyn?

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Worst election defeat since Michael Foot in the 80s. Surely Labour has to realise that they need someone to appeal to the masses and the floating voters like me who would never vote for the Momentum crowd.

Keir Starmer is impressive. He's bright, articulate and has a life outside politics. Would Yvette Cooper be up for it?

And more importantly, can the Momentum lot take their blinkers off and realise that THEY are the problem?

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And that’s fair enough, but I know lots of people who do support their policies. I thought the manifesto was fine. Corbyn is correct that it is Brexit that had the greatest impact on the Labour vote, in my opinion. That’s not an excuse, just the reality of the political landscape: lots of traditional Labour voters who think we need to leave the EU.

Chukka would have been an epic choice, it is such a shame he joined the lib dems and has now lost his seat altogether, he had real potential.

Not McDonnell or the other momentum cronies, we need to return to the centre ground.

Chukka is a weather-vane.

Well yes, Smile, agreed there but my issue is with other members who have been here much longer term who want a decent labour paty back but thought cancelling their membership woud achieve anything, when it really means they will just struggle to vote for a new leader.

Keir Starmer seemed to be propping up Labour’s media presence at one point. Came across as hugely knowledgeable and competent.

Would be tempted to vote labour if he were leader.

There’s some evidence that people are conditioned to think that people who fit the traditional mould of who looks like they ought to be in charge (male, tall, white, not young not old, ‘straight’, a bit posh) come across as more competent, even when they are saying the same things as people who are female, or short, or overweight, or non-white etc. There is a bias there, which is one of the reasons we have so many people who look like Kier Starmer at the top of politics.

He is clever and competent, but so are others on the left.

Paul he would be brilliant! Dan Jarvis is also a metro mayor, but he would have been a good choice.

I think that, technically, you don't have to be an MP to be the leader of the Labour Party (I seem to think I looked this up quite recently) but convention is that it's usually someone in the PLP.

David Lammy would not work as a leader, he is very vocal on racism and calls it out (rightly so), however this will alienate large swathes of white working class voters who do not want to be confronted with their own prejudices. Bitter pill but true.

I think you’re sadly right there. I’m white and welcome the challenge of Lammy’s approach, it leads me to listen to and respect experiences outside of my own. But probably many people just don’t want to hear it.

It doesn't really matter. The arrogant momentum lot have let the tories in to do what they want with the country. Whatever labour does for the next 5 years will basically be twiddling in a corner.

Angela Rayner. Absolutely. A fantastic and inspirational speaker who can win back the heartlands.

Jess Philips is distrusted by the membership as being too close to the right wing media.

It is unfortunate that the Liberal Democrats have imploded and erased the middle ground but I do not think Labour needs to step up and plug that gap.

Corbyn might be hoping to pass the baton to Diane Abbott. 😁 Is she still an MP?

Shelagh Fogarty on LBC suggesting Lisa Nandy

If there was a massive appetite for centrist policies, why have the most right wing conservative party won by a landslide?!

I think there's a lot of truth in the winners being whoever the sun backs and labour will do poorly regardless of policies or leadership while this is the case.

Harriet Harman would be labelled a paedophile sympathiser. Keir Starmer would be tarnished by old cases he oversaw.

They have won by a landslide because centrists could not vote for Labour under Corbyn.

Diane Abbott perhaps?

But they could vote for a very right wing party with Boris at the helm? Perhaps they're just right wing and not centrists afterall then.

Nope just couldn’t vote Corbyn, a clear message against Momentum and the far left.

I was about to say that it's ludicrous to think that most of the electorate are swayed by the filthy tabloids, but every time I go to the shops, every trolley I accidentally look into, (I don't go around, deliberately peering into other people's shopping trolleys, I swear), has a copy of the Daily Mail in it. Not many Sun readers in Waitrose, but I am always shocked at otherwise nice, normal looking people having a copy of that filthy rag.

So, that pp may be right about whoever the rags back wins the day . I hope that isn't true though. All the people who vote Tory can't be thick enough to enjoy the Daily Mail can they? I refuse to believe that's true.

I voted tactically as the Lib Dems didn't have a chance locally and Boris is an abomination. The constituency narrowly went from Labour to Tory despite the votes of me and others. I firmly believe that if Brexit hadn't been an election issue with remainers voting tactically to try to keep the Tories out then Labour's losses would have been even worse. The Lib Dems may have fared better than they did.

I think it's time for change and a new party representing the views of those of us in the middle ground.

I'm in a Tory safe seat FWIW.

The press does sway yes. Although not just DM the BBC. No not all Cons read the DM. Didn’t Blair have press on his side?

Jess Philips for me.

I honestly can't remember Blair's GE campaign(s?). I wasn't old enough to vote and lived in NI where we didn't really have a Labour candidate, so I think it past me by somewhat...

I remember the sun or someone did that billboard with him dressed as the devil and got in trouble though.

Is he actually going to step down? Or is this period of reflection going to last until the next election? Boris has a big majority, there must be an effective opposition.