Tell me the good things about Johnson's Brexit plans...

[thehorseandhisboy]

With it looking like a Tory majority, and Johnson's intention to 'get Brexit done' (in a different way to the way he 'got it done' in October), I'm trying to understand how a hard Brexit, possible a no deal Brexit, will be the saviour of the country that the Conservatives believe that it will be.

What benefits will a hard Brexit bring to the people of the UK?

we are getting rid of Northern Ireland?

I mean I suppose that should feel like a bad thing, but what with the DUP and the political stance on abortion and gay rights, I sort of feel like they don't really belong in the UK. Not that they belong with Ireland either...but hey.

China, India and Africa (BRICS)
I think you need to look up who the BRICS are
and read their economic forecasts and goals

Brazil - 50% inflation, burning down its own rain forest
Russia - an economy smaller than Spain
India - about to sign a trade deal with the EU in exchange for 1,000,000 visas a year
China - on the verge of demographic end environmental collapse
South Africa - 50% unemployment and trying to recover from state capture by Zuma

I'm guessing everyone lives under a different EU to the one I live in. Seems to be an absolute utopia.

ListeningQuietly quite. BRICS isn't exactly a current success story, if that's what we're aspiring to then we're aspiring to massively worsen our economy and environment.

Marriedtoapenguin
Which specific bits of the EU are you looking forward to no longer affecting your day to day life ?

Well he didn't mention any benefits to Brexit in the election campaign (or for months actually) so I assume there aren't any.

There is nothing good about brexit Boris Johnson and his band of cronies.

@ScreamingLadySutch - you seem to be completely ignoring the rights of the British citizens who already work and live in the EU and will no longer be eligible for lots of jobs. Plus the problem with a points based system of immigration for skilled workers is that a lot of the work that we need done is actually unskilled work!

50,000 Brits who work in the ski resorts will all lose their jobs if FOM ends
as will all the tour reps in the Med beach resorts

With people like screamingladysutch we only hear the voices of older people - never the young. That’s what depresses me most about Brexit. There is no appetite for it among the young.

50,000 Brits who work in the ski resorts will all lose their jobs if FOM ends as will all the tour reps in the Med beach resorts

That's ok, they can all come home and pick potatoes. Bright enough for you?

@Figmentofmyimagination the young should look at the youth unemployment rates of youth in Europe compared with UK.

That will calm them down a bit.

Good points @ListeningQuietly

But long term these are growing markets

Tory voters suspiciously quiet now...

Screamingladysutch
But long term these are growing markets
Which of the BRICS are growing markets ?
Brazil - declining economy, declining workforce
Russia - ditto
India - ditto
China - ditto
South Africa - might grow but only by exporting workers to Europe

Tory voters suspiciously quiet now...

Why because 50, 000 brits are going to lose their jobs in ski reports, or that veg picking in fields often didn't offer a living wage?

Pray tell how this affected those in the labour heartlands that voted for a red rossette for decades.

Well exactly... why aren’t they on here now telling us all of the benefits?

Well exactly... why aren’t they on here now telling us all of the benefits

It was you who wanted a reply to european ski resorts losing 50k brits, that statement alone is to the meme on who is going to serve the starbucks coffee.

The fact veg pickers don't receive a living wage and have to rent on site housing, really isn't the win against brexiteers you think it is.

They couldn't give a shit about the first, and frankly it isn't relevant the second becomes difficult for remainers to justify with the left wing credentials of wanting a living wage.

Unless you are an out and out neolib, which i doubt with your partisan virtue signal then I will guess you haven't really thought this through.

There is a reason why there is a multitude of cases of 25 people living in a 4 bedroom house, it wasn't because the brits are too lazy to work.

It is far more nuanced, could be why Netherlands and other eu countries have seen a reduction in fruit pickers.

You keep it nice and simple though, its easier to argue black and white and pretend to morally superior.

I didn’t want a reply to that... Are you okay? You know that wasn’t me, right?

So... ERG looking, as someone said on Twitter, like an annual meeting for people who find mayonnaise 'too spicy'.

Johnson determined to exit the EU at the end of 2020, so a hard Brexit pretty much inevitable as not possible to negotiate multiple trade deals before then.

Pound now falling again.

This isn't looking good, is it?