Tell me the good things about Johnson's Brexit plans...

[thehorseandhisboy]

With it looking like a Tory majority, and Johnson's intention to 'get Brexit done' (in a different way to the way he 'got it done' in October), I'm trying to understand how a hard Brexit, possible a no deal Brexit, will be the saviour of the country that the Conservatives believe that it will be.

What benefits will a hard Brexit bring to the people of the UK?

This is Johnson we're talking about, though. He wants to be king, have fun and become even richer... and other than that is unpredictable.

I agree. I very much doubt he'll be in office more than a year or two. Looks like he's got his big victory. That will satisfy his ego and he won't be bothered about doing the hard work of PM.

I can’t think of anything good about Boris’s Brexit plans.

However, if the Tories get their majority, they’ll have to own Brexit. Blaming Labour or any other party just won’t wash. They’ll have to either make a success of Brexit (good luck with that) or accept responsibility when it all goes horribly wrong.

We're all going to be relearning long-lost skills like growing our own fruit and veg, keeping our own goats, and whipping up our own healthcare remedies from nettles.

Thanks all.

Is there anyone who voted for Johnson's hard/no deal Brexit in the election, so must have thought about it and feel vaguely positive about it surely (please let someone), able to explain the positives at all?

Brexit aside I don't loathe most the Tory policies. That's the best attitude I got.
Al Johnson is repulsive. I am trying to avoid his face & voice.
Never felt that way about Cameron, Major, Hague....

But how can we put Brexit aside.

Once again, Johnson has promised to 'get Brexit done'.

I honestly can't see the benefits (other than it upholds the result of the EU Referendum).

Is some who voted for a hard Brexit, possibly a no deal Brexit, able to explain what benefits it might bring to the people of the UK?

Genuine question as genuinely perplexed.

Bumping as now getting really scared!

Some threads full of blue champagne glasses celebrating, but those asking for positives to Conservative victory/hard or no deal Brexit empty!

Okay, so on another thread people suggested that Johnson's majority means that he doesn't need the support of the JRM et al so a softer Brexit is more likely.

Does that sound about right?

Another shameless bump.

Honestly, people voted for Johnson's Brexit plans just yesterday.

Surely there must have been reasons that you did so.

I'm trying to cling to the fact that he may not be as dependent on JRM et al and there may be a softer Brexit, but that's not guaranteed is it?

There aren’t any. HTH.

thehorseandhisboy, yep, Johnson not being dependent on JRM, the ERG et al is pretty much the upside.

He will now have to own Brexit – although obviously will attempt to blame any downsides on, well, pretty much anyone passing. We've already seen a poster on this thread start making the excuses within minutes of the exit polls; there'll be PLENTY more of that.

If it's ONLY political parties or individual politicians he scapegoats, that might not be too bad. But he (or some of his chums) may well follow the trad path of scapegoating population groups. And we know how that goes...

Johnson not being dependent on JRM, the ERG et al is pretty much the upside.

My worry is that many of the new Tory MPs are likely to be supporters of the ERG. Lots of stories before the election of candidates only being selected if they were supportive of a no-deal Brexit.

No benefits to this lying moron being in charge.

As for Brexit he repeatedly promised to get it 'done' by 31st Oct. Is he going to invent a time machine?

It was a Brexit election and people voted for it without knowing what it meant and the implications of a hard Brexit at the end of next year.

I think that's what most worries me now Parker231.

I was sort of hoping that some of the 'happy days, it's a Tory victory' posters from other threads would be able to explain the benefits of the hard Brexit that they voted for as I just can't see it.

Thanks for all responses.

Oh dear. The lack of responses is quite scary tbh.

As an EU citizen I am fed up with asking for extensions without actually doing something. Take a deal, or no deal or stay. Extensions cost us money too. If you decide to go why should I have to pay more while you're not leaving anyway?

Blue passports.
Totally worth it.

Joking aside ( mind you,it really is the only vaguely cool thing that will happen as a result of Brexit imo), the claims that, with a decent majority, BoJo can come up with BINO are interesting, and make a lot of sense.
Strange that TMay didn't manage this.
But hey, she was a slightly boring woman, and people love a male buffoon who does stunts

Besidesthepoint I hear you.
As a EU citizen who thinks Brexit is a disastrous idea, I am starting to feel very " oh just get it done ffs".
If it is going to happen then let it happen, the uncertainty is no good, economically as well as psychologically.
If EU citizens feel like that, one can only imagine how fed up the Brits must be.

I wish I could think of something. It's extremely worrying that nobody has been able to come up with anything.

He won the election by answering "Let's get Brexit done" to every question. (And blaming Labour)

Their lies were exposed during the campaign, yet people still voted for them in droves. 🤷‍♀️

There must be someone on here that can list the benefits.

err no more tax on tampons....

A few rich people will stop having to struggle as much

I'm off to look at private healthcare options before they hike up on price with the inevitable demise of the NHS

Yeah...start a thread on how scared you are about the results and loads Tories come out to tell you to get over it and stop overreacting, how dare you suggest they don't care, boohoo. Or they tell you that someone else made them vote against their wishes.
Start a thread asking a genuine, intelligent question about the future and the same Tories can't come up with anything.
Interesting, but not in the least surprising.

I find this post so interesting. So many Tory voters in the country and on Mumsnet but actually answers to your question are like where's wally.

The uk is going to unite and go on an exciting journey.

And we are going to get a wonderful trade deal by the end of 2020.

Seriously though, because Brexit is about identity, I’m not sure you can expect to point to material ‘good things’. But there may be a genuine benefit to finally giving so many people what they wanted. Danny Dorling would say the benefit is that the uk will realise it’s not the 19th century anymore, but I think that’s a bit harsh. I think resolving on something is a kind of benefit in and of itself, because people finally know what direction they are going and where they stand. They understand they they just have to go over the edge with the 17+ million.

There may be environmental benefits too - no more subsidised hill farming, for example. This breaks my heart but other people will see a benefit.

The problem with Brexit is that one person’s ‘good thing’ is someone else’s economic disaster. That’s why the PM can only talk in very general terms - about embarking on an exciting journey etc.