Corbyn crushing capitalism WTAF

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I am a labour supporter, I am even a labour member but I woke up with a pit of dread in my stomach about tomorrow.

It is not the massive nationalisation programme labour have pledged, nor the spending and wasting of trillions of pounds that keeps me awake, it is not even the idea of having Corbyn as PM as weak and as inept as he is.

It is having Momentum in charge of our country (with Corbyn held as a fig leaf so to speak) and their plans to crush capitalism that bothers me the most.

You can't simply crush capitalism, it is the financial world order that we are all part of, not just this country but most of the countries in the world. The idea that we can simply skip back to the 70s socialism in today's global world is ridiculous.
Labour will take over our companies by force, forced closure of private schools, taking over perceived empty homes after six months regardless of circumstances. This is the plan for an authoritarian state forcing a very hard left agenda, not a democratic civilised western country.

Do we suppose people will just stand idly by and let their schools be closed, their homes taken away, and see the deficit spiral out of control? Do we suppose companies being whacked with massive tax hikes and draconian state intervention will just stay in the UK?

No, it will cause a level of crisis and chaos we have never seen before as the labour government try to over throw capitalism and instal their new agenda, and all of this on the backdrop of the hate and division that will be caused by called another brexit referendum! It really does not bear thinking about.

I voted remain, but I honestly hate to think what a second referendum will do to the fabric of our country. It was bad enough the first time around.

I am genuinely feeling sick at the prospect of tomorrow. It is going to be the day of reckoning one way or another.

Here's your answer @ByeByeMissAmericanPie

I'm a Labour supporter and I agree with you OP.

I've heard John McDonnell being interviewed about "democratising" large companies and making them be less insistent on short term profits by forcing them to alter their Board.

Not letting private landlords, of which there are an astonishing number of reasonable ones have access over the duration they let their house be rented for.

There are SO many extreme policies that people just talk about the manifesto generally.

Not only that but they're somehow going to have 2 further national referendums as well as this progressive economic and legislation heavy plan. Whilst somehow still being able to plan for a likely Brexit.

I am worried about Friday. Worried that Corbyn gets in and worried he wont step down if he doesn't.

By the way, if you're fine with the Tories having the powers detailed in page 48, I assume you're also fine with Labour having them?

Fuck off with the Tory bot bollocks. Are you a Labour bot? God, the left aren’t very intelligent are they? Maybe that’s why they need the state to nanny them which is why they want Corbyn as leader

I'm not a Labour voter but even I think the OP is a bit hysterical.

Tory HQ at it again. What rot.

Im no fan of Corbyn but Boris is a liar and determined to dismantle the country and build a deregulated "competitive" nation: read working all the plebs into the ground for low wages, no security, no employment protections. Whilst his rich buddies cream off the profits and leave nothing for the hard working people.

No health service, no social care, no public services, unaffordable housing, no retirement prospects, schools run down (but AOK if you can afford Eton), police stretched so thinly that we descend into lawlessness (already see rise in knife crime, cant get a car theft investigated for love nor money), this is already happening.

Brexshit will make it all worse. Jobs are already bleeding out of the country.

People need to wake up. Corbyn is not the enemy. He cares about making life better for ordinary people.

Im a high rate rax payer and stand to be caught out by a rise in tax on high earners. Better that than the mire offered by Lying Boris.

Conservatives are the real danger here. Im shit scared about tomorrow what will happen to our country if they stay in actually.
Im not scared at the prospect of Labour getting in and having to pay a bit more tax.
I'm not scared that if Labour get in both mine and my husbands job will be under threat due to possible nationalisation and cutting of university tuition fees.

Im scared about what will CONTINUE happen to society and our country if Tories stay in ... people have been dying ffs under a tory govt whilst the rich just get richer.

Other parties deserve the chance to make this country better not Tory

I’m worried about the prospect of Boris the dictator in charge. Corbyn listens to his party and negotiates with them, his whole stance on Brexit is because he was going with the majority.

Boris fired 20 of his own party for disagreeing with him, many who have been MPs all their life. Respected MPs.

If this prospect doesn’t scare you more than anything then you need to do some reading on dictators or skim a few history books.

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He won’t step down. Momentum won’t let him

Funny how Corbyn is seen as a communist in the UK but in many mainland European countries his policies would be centrists.

I think you joined the wrong party perhaps? You don't sound very labour?

Absolutely OP, they're are dangerous with him and his inner circle in charge, if they were to be in charge of the country it would be disasterous

We are called bots unless you are a devotee of Corbyn, this is a joke right?! Corbyn is NOT the labour party, the labour party is not fanatical or very hard left. It is used to be a gentle moderate party with excellent values. It is no longer. So many of us are scared of what Corbyn will do, and yet the minute anyone says so you are called a tory bot!!!!!

I would laugh if it were not so serious.

I am off to do the school run before I am accused of disappearing. Seriously you need to stop screaming bot and actually listen to what we are saying. We are labour members and supporters, we have always been, but we are shit scared of Corbyn.

It is terrible to be a labour supporter, and feel at the same time I simply can not vote for them tomorrow.

This is exactly how I feel, I won’t vote Tory, not in a million years, but I don’t want Labour to win either. Truth be told I’m hoping that JC and BJ both drop dead over night and we can start again.

So your first ever election you could vote for Blair and you think you're a labour party supporter?

Blair was a Tory-lite

There hasn't been a traditional labour party in your voting lifetime

You need to work on your act OP. Tough audience today. 1/10.

How can you be a Labour supporter and be shit scared of Corbyn and not Johnson? It does not ring true.The Tories are now so far to the right that anyone with centrist liberal Labour values would not vote for them.

Capitalism was crushed the day we bailed out the banks.

Stop using 'we', OP.

You don't speak for me.

Still waiting to hear labour policies you did approve of for years.

What I find more scary is the lies and scaremongering that people seem so desperate to lap up whilst wilfully ignoring the absolute clear and obvious truths about Johnson and pals.

@ReceptacleForTheRespectable actually my dad is more concise. He calls Corbyn a 'nutter'. And he's a die hard labour and trade union man, as his father was before him. I couldn't believe it when he voted Lib Dem in the last election.

Oh do fuck off dear.

I'm sick of this hysteria about implied communism if you were a Labour voter in the 70's you'd have been supporting those striking for better employment conditions and pay or you'd have been a scab.

I suggest you go back to your scum newspaper and fret some more.

I think we are faced with two more extreme options than we should be. However, I think our current choice is between a labour minority government which will not be able to implement the extremes but could implement the compassion and much needed investment in public services or a tory majority which is terrifying. But even if the Labour Party was in with a chance of a majority I am far more scared of a Tory majority. Mostly because, despite being a relatively high earning household we can't counteract the fact that:

*my children go to a school with a high level of children with special needs and insufficient funding. As a result, my little boy has been hurt badly on two occasions and at 5 begs every day not to go to school and cries every night at the thought. I'm starting to investigate private schools. But...

*My mum is in sheltered accommodation. Support has gradually been withdrawn from on site daily to an hour a week. Increasingly the other residents are violent alcoholic men in their 50s. She's been threatened and followed by one, who has previously been arrested for attempting to strangle another resident. She's scared to leave her flat but she doesn't meet the threshold for moving. My MIL is reaching end of life care, which is ineffective at best.

*My sister, who is disabled, has had her pip stopped again. Of course it will, again, be reinstated on appeal but how does she pay her bills in the meantime?

*Because I know of so many families locally who can't afford food or rent and who are living in overcrowded accommodation.

*Because the Conservative party environmental commitments have been assessed and scored 5 out of 45, compared to the other parties 30+ and we don't have 5 years to waste.

*Because I spent 15 years working in the NHS and the financial pressure drove me out. I don't think immediately stopping private involvement is the answer (the capacity isn't there and you can't make doctors and nurses work for the NHS, especially if you take their businesses off them) but I know the current approach isn't working.

I’m more worried about the NHS, i don’t think it will survive another term under the tories

I’m not a Corbyn devotee, I can see that someone able to shreds off Johnson would fare better. But his policies come from a place of caring about those who need more support, by improving housing and public services rather than policies aimed at making the rich richer.
People talking about the 70s really are grasping at straws. You don’t need to look any further back than last week to see the misery this government have caused.