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Corbyn crushing capitalism WTAF

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Considermesometimes · 11/12/2019 06:58

I am a labour supporter, I am even a labour member but I woke up with a pit of dread in my stomach about tomorrow.

It is not the massive nationalisation programme labour have pledged, nor the spending and wasting of trillions of pounds that keeps me awake, it is not even the idea of having Corbyn as PM as weak and as inept as he is.

It is having Momentum in charge of our country (with Corbyn held as a fig leaf so to speak) and their plans to crush capitalism that bothers me the most.

You can't simply crush capitalism, it is the financial world order that we are all part of, not just this country but most of the countries in the world. The idea that we can simply skip back to the 70s socialism in today's global world is ridiculous.
Labour will take over our companies by force, forced closure of private schools, taking over perceived empty homes after six months regardless of circumstances. This is the plan for an authoritarian state forcing a very hard left agenda, not a democratic civilised western country.

Do we suppose people will just stand idly by and let their schools be closed, their homes taken away, and see the deficit spiral out of control? Do we suppose companies being whacked with massive tax hikes and draconian state intervention will just stay in the UK?

No, it will cause a level of crisis and chaos we have never seen before as the labour government try to over throw capitalism and instal their new agenda, and all of this on the backdrop of the hate and division that will be caused by called another brexit referendum! It really does not bear thinking about.

I voted remain, but I honestly hate to think what a second referendum will do to the fabric of our country. It was bad enough the first time around.

I am genuinely feeling sick at the prospect of tomorrow. It is going to be the day of reckoning one way or another.

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ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 11/12/2019 07:21

The nationalising worries me, especially the broadband. It's under state control in some countries and they regularly block people from using it and control the content,

That's scary.

Nothing free is really free, free nationalised broadband comes with a heavy price.

Considermesometimes · 11/12/2019 07:22

No one could accuse you of intelligent discussed posts Maiden!! Grin

It is very lame to simply label me a tory because I am so worried about labour at the moment.

Even the labour shadow health secretary seemed to share my concerns no less.

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Baguetteaboutit · 11/12/2019 07:23

Well, I'm a long standing Tory supporter but I just can't bring myself to vote for them now, knowing that Boris eats babies for breakfast. Sad

Considermesometimes · 11/12/2019 07:24

chardonnay It reminded me of the programme in China when they decided to include BT. I agree.
Almost like a state taking over us. I don't like it at all, and the more they have publish, the more worried I have become. Labour would never have supported this in the past.

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Snowjive2 · 11/12/2019 07:24

Sorry, I don’t believe a word of this OP. I agree - this is Tory HQ spamming social media. Because that’s gone well for them since the weekend Grin

BlueGingerale · 11/12/2019 07:24

None of what you’ve said is in his manifesto.

But he will be in a minority govt so he won’t be able to do anything radical. He won’t have the votes for it.

The alternative to a labour minority govt is a Tory majority govt - which will be much much worse for capitalism. Their hard Brexit will destroy our economy

Considermesometimes · 11/12/2019 07:24

bag and that is just weird, please stop.

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MissEliza · 11/12/2019 07:27

It's getting ridiculous that every time someone posts something anti-Corbyn, they're accused of being a Torybot. I'm not a Labour supporter but I hear lots of family and friends who are saying the same as the Op. My dad is seventy six and been a Labour Party member is whole life and won't vote Labour under Corbyn.

Baguetteaboutit · 11/12/2019 07:27

What, you mean we can't just pretend that we are begrudgingly not voting for a particular party because of ? I thought that was the game?

ChristmasSpirtsOnTheRocksPleas · 11/12/2019 07:27

You are undoubtedly right in saying this is what they want to do but I doubt that it would come to pass. If it did Britain as we know it would collapse. Can you imagine that Parliament (even a labour majority one) is stupid enough to chase out all of the wealthy, skilled and, educated? I’d expect compromises would be made at some point.

Actionhasmagic · 11/12/2019 07:28

Ok Tory

Tigerty · 11/12/2019 07:28

I agree with you. I also left the Labour Party because it’s too far left with Momentum running things. I really wish we had a moderate party to vote for.

The Tories are the same as they’ve ever been. Lib Dem’s are the wokest of the woke. It’s a shitshow.

Actionhasmagic · 11/12/2019 07:28

Stop fearmongering

OrangeCinnamon · 11/12/2019 07:29

The world and country is changing . We can't simply go on as we have . Capitalism is destroying not just this country but our world. Something needs to change.
Is Labour's alternative path the way? It us up to the individual to decide but sitting back and letting the Tories stay in power will be more detrimental to this country than anything. Not least because of their lack of understanding and recognition on Climate Change.

ChristmasSpirtsOnTheRocksPleas · 11/12/2019 07:29

@OrangeCinnamon labour voted on that policy before the election. The election manifesto is silently creating grounds on which to implement it. It doesn’t take a genius to put two and two together.

ReceptacleForTheRespectable · 11/12/2019 07:29

Because that’s gone well for them since the weekend

Unfortunately it has gone well. Lots of people see and share the initial claims, hardly anyone bothers to share the corrections unless they are already voting against the Tories (and therefore don't need to be persuaded that they are lying).

Social media bubbles being what they are, people tend to only see content with one angle.

Blossie0 · 11/12/2019 07:29

Day before election...trying to stir up some labour hate....you are as much a labour member as Boris Grin

PineappleDanish · 11/12/2019 07:30

I hear you OP. I'm the classic floating voter, I've voted Lib Dem, Tory, Labour in my time. At the moment, Labour have lurched far too far to the left to appeal to me whatsoever. They need to come back towards the centre ground before I'd consider them at all.

CherryPlum · 11/12/2019 07:30

If it looks like a Tory, walks like a Tory....

Fullyhuman · 11/12/2019 07:31

Outrageous lies! A Labour majority would prevent the selling off of the NHS and attempt the renationalisation of several industries that should never have been privatised - not all private industry! No one’s proposing communism ffs.

Considermesometimes · 11/12/2019 07:31

But he will be in a minority govt so he won’t be able to do anything radical. He won’t have the votes for it

You are wrong, they will form a pact with the SNP, and that will be even worse!! Think about it.
We will have another referendum in Scotland by the end of next year, Nicola also supports scrapping trident, she agrees with the nationalisation programme and would gladly see private schools, second homes abolished forever! She won't stop labour taking over the utilities, she is all for it.
We don't use private schools, but what happens to our schools when they are flooded with all the hundreds and thousands of extra pupils. He will not be held back from any of his pledges is the truth of the matter.

The SNP would drive England into the ground given half the chance, they are not going to stop Corbyn from doing his worst to the country because it supports their independence case, and that is all they care about.

It amazes me that you are planning to vote for a party tomorrow on a wing and a prayer that they will not activate their pledges! Why would you do that???

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missfliss · 11/12/2019 07:31

There's plenty of anti Corbyn posts on Mumsnet not from a Tory not. This one blatantly is.

Everything about the post is bollocks. Total hyperbole- just an emotional 'conscience' based on exactly the same tactics and smears that have been used to good effect by Tory HQ in their campaign.

As in not based on any manifesto or evidence. Not sourced or linked.

Probably designed based on some persona development in Tory HQ.

ReceptacleForTheRespectable · 11/12/2019 07:32

It's getting ridiculous that every time someone posts something anti-Corbyn, they're accused of being a Torybot. I'm not a Labour supporter but I hear lots of family and friends who are saying the same as the Op. My dad is seventy six and been a Labour Party member is whole life and won't vote Labour under Corbyn.

Is your dad going around making the kind of claims that are in the OP?

TheFuckingDogs · 11/12/2019 07:34

Ooh they’re out in force today 😃 THQ getting a little bit scared. Seriously anyone who is genuinely worried - the current Labour Party are suggesting policies in line with many other European countries, not even that radical. Don’t believe the lies of a billionaire right wing media. And even if there was a tiny chance this current Labour government were secretly raging communists (which they’re not, they’re socialists) they will have to be in coalition with others eg LD/SNP and basically won’t have ultimate power to carry out many of their more “radical” policies. I would be far more scared if the psychopathic current government and their fascist and elitist ways

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 11/12/2019 07:34

*Capitalism is destroying not just this country but our world.

No, we humans are destroying our world. Socialism is just as bad, only it’s government led. Huge building programmes are just as environmentally bad as capitalist consumption.