To be bored sh*tless of "look at BoJos lies" threads

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Not a fan of Boris. Not a Tory bot.

There seems to be another "look at my dossier"/"read this article"/"read these lies!" Thread every 4.5 seconds. I'm bored to the point of losing the plot over this.

Again, not a Boris fan but I like to think that people can educate themselves without yet another bloody thread implying they're deluded or living under a bush?

Bore off. Please. We can all read without your helpful suggestions.

AIBU?

Absolutely sick of both sides tbh , can’t wait for Friday

Bots make stuff up SilverySurfer. No need to make stuff up while Johnson's around. Quoting what somebody has said and holding it up to the light is not trolling.

Who is paying the bots @SilverySurfer? Are you not concerned about the number of lies Johnson tells?

I'm not going to express any political views.

I just need to know if any one else got this ad on this thread

i think its utterly bizarre that so many posters think the posters who dislike bj here are bots?

are you really that thick that you believe that?

Lipstick 😂

@chomalungma

Someone has to call out his lies.

Or they could challenge them instead, assuming they aren't American fucking teenagers.

Oh ay Karen the Labour Party had the foresight to go back in time and pay people to spend six years posting on Mumsnet about cracked nipples and baby-led weaning just so that one day they could badmouth Boris Johnson.

I don't think all of them are bots, but I do believe a lot of people have a cult-like belief in Labour as the shining saviour of every single thing, "if it weren't for those pesky tories ", as if they have been helplessly locked in a dungeon and only just escaped the evil lair.

We've had 3 GEs where this Elysian option could have been selected, but it has not been.

Why not? If Labour were/are so amazingly wonderful for everyone and the country, why would tens of millions of people shoot themselves in the foot and not X that box? Pure numbers suggest they can't all be the 1% voting to keep their billions safe.

Labour need to take a long hard look at why they have proven so inept at getting voted in when it should have been a landslide if their policies were so fantastic. It's lazy to blame it on the people who vote for another party.

Media bias for a start.

So Johnson claims to be looking after the NHS yet A&E targets are being increasing missed.

Labour need to take a long hard look at why they have proven so inept at getting voted in when it should have been a landslide if their policies were so fantastic. It's lazy to blame it on the people who vote for another party

Absolutely agree. Labour unfortunately do not learn from their mistakes. The Tory party are so successful for a reason one we are a conservative country with a small c and secondly and more importantly they are not led by an ideology the party of flexible

Oh I have been accused of being on Boris’s payroll I’ve been posting on here for years about my disappointment with the Labour Party and my dislike of Corbyn/Momentum and what the party has become. I don’t want Labour to be in opposition but they will be again for the next five years

The BBC published this break down of 31 adverts to show which were wholly or partly untrue.
Source: Coalition for Reform in Political Advertising
Tories 10
Lib Dems 11
Brexit Party 6
Labour 4

The research is here;
reformpoliticaladvertising.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Illegal-Indecent-Dishonest-and-Untruthful-The-Coalition-for-Reform-in-Political-Advertising.pdf

Two of the Conservative adverts make the list because of GDPR/Intellectual Property Compliance rather than being misleading as such.

It's obviously not an extensive study.

I am looking adverts/posters on Labour's Facebook page which appeared the same week:

They have a Fair Tax Calculator which posters are saying is misleading because it doesn't include all of Labour's policies.

There is the grossly misleading claim that families could be £6,700 per year better off.

Neither of these is mentioned by the ad checker.

Boris Johnson selling the NHS is mentioned in the research but Labour are now running a new advert; "Seven things that prove Boris Johnson's Tories and Nigel Farage will sell our NHS" - which is clearly misleading.

One of Labour's 'seven things' is a book written by Dominic Raab, Priti Patel and Liz Truss in 2011 - I found the book on Amazon last week - the introduction is free to view and says this;

"The Conservative Party is fully committed to a National Health Service which is free at the point of delivery and accessible to all."

Apologies for grammatical errors!

"The Conservative Party is fully committed to a National Health Service which is free at the point of delivery and accessible to all."

Pigs will fly!

pumperthepumper haha really? Fine. I'm going to vote Tory despite Boris, I'm well aware of what he is but he is not who I am voting for (don't remember picking him for the leadership role). I (marginally) prefer the Tory party manifesto. Yes, that's partly because I'm selfish (my vote will affect me after all, and I am not altruistic), but partly as I am deeply concerned about Labour's plan and there's not a damn chance in hell the Lib Dems will win. I'm also not wanting a hung parliament as in my view, that is the worst outcome to get anything done (No, I don't mean the dreaded B word, but that does reflect what I mean regarding getting things through parliament without a majority).
So, do I now get some respect as a Tory voter or am I still the scum of the earth, racist, evil, and probably I even kick puppies, simply because my political views don't align with Labour voters?

What a daft thread. Makes no sense. Here's an idea..if a thread sounds boring to you, don't click on it.

Midnight You sure do! Thanks for being honest, although I’d love to know what it is that deeply concerns you about labour. And how, knowing what Boris Johnson is, you can still vote for his party, knowing he’ll still be leading it?

Boris is an utter twat, but I am not voting for him. I am not voting for my local Tory either. The previous incumbent is up on Sexual Assault charges and his wife is standing instead. Despite being a Remain campaigner, the pair of them are charging about wanting to get "Brexit Done!" Democracy my fellow voters call it. Hypocrisy, entitlement and misogyny is what I am calling it.

Marry me @downtonabbey

pumper the speed and cost of their plans basically. I really don't see how it's achievable with huge tax increases to all (are the richer ones really going to the only ones?). I'm also not agreeing with nationalising everything, and as I work in retail (ie a struggling sector), the speed they want to up minimum wage, the 4 day weeks etc, worries me. I also like the idea of a care system like they envisage but the practicality concerns me. I'm not a fan of rushing through self-ID as I'm a woman (born).
I've no choice in the leader of a party. As I said, I prefer the Tory manifesto. Short of not voting, that doesn't give me much option does it?

Midnight, I think all of that is important too - but it’s not nearly as important as stopping the tories crippling the NHS and selling off chunks of it to Trump or continuing their war on the most vulnerable people in society. As I said, I am no Corbyn or Sturgeon fan, I just can’t bear to see what the Tories are doing, and will continue to do. It just sickens me, they are watching children starve, watching people queuing up at foodbanks, more and more homeless people on the streets, more and more disability cuts and they just do not give one single fuck.

We can agree to disagree, and I genuinely do thank you for being honest.

pumper we can indeed agree to disagree. I just wish there wasn't so much vitriolic hyberbole going about in all honesty. There's definitely issues that need fixing, I just don't know who would be best fix all of them without causing more problems.
You're very welcome, thank you for actually listening (even though I'm gonna contribute to not stopping the Tories)

There is the grossly misleading claim that families could be £6,700 per year better off.

Thread on that, claim-by-claim:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1202183745169690624.html