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Boris Johnson refuses to look at photo of child on hospital floor

326 replies

Cam77 · 09/12/2019 16:59

Johnson repeatedly refusing to look at picture of a four year old child on a hospital floor when confronted by an ITV reporter. After refusing to so much as glance at the photo, he then proceeds to pocket the reporters phone(!?) while mouthing empty platitudes. Here’s a link,but I’m sure you’ll see it on the news anyway..
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-nhs-leeds-hospital-floor-jack-williment-phone-photo-a9239041.html
Was he having a bad day? Nah, it’s Johnson to a T: a privileged, uncaring, unashamed bullshitter, out for number one. Does this man represent our country?

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Monsterinmyshoe · 09/12/2019 22:18

heath48 is that you Donald Trump? The over use of exclamation marks really give it away 😂

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 09/12/2019 22:19

I’ve just seen this on the news

He does look but after refusing to at first - this is very poor behaviour it can’t be excused he shows no empathy until he has to think about doing so

I don’t believe it will impact the result as other posters have pointed out he could kick a puppy live on TV and get away with it - always said the man is like Teflon

Monsterinmyshoe · 09/12/2019 22:22

DoctorTwo

It proves the Selfservatives are getting just a bit desperate when they send their proxies to post rubbish on a thread like this.

Tell me about it. Mumsnet has been full of them for the last two weeks. It's so bloody obvious and brazen too. Glad to see that most of us aren't fooled.

PortiaCastis · 09/12/2019 22:25

Yep tory botty bot bots all over the show!

Babynamechangerr · 09/12/2019 22:35

It's fake. Disgraceful that newspapers printed this and it went everywhere in the media without a single journalist actually checking with Leeds Hospital about whether this actually happened.

The boy was seen within 20 mins of getting to A&E apparently.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 09/12/2019 22:39

Even if the story has been exaggerated

We all saw Boris Johnson’s response that isn’t what we should expect from our PM

AllesAusLiebe · 09/12/2019 22:49

Okay, here's my take:

Johnson - awful excuse for a human being. Clearly not a shred of empathy and completely unfit as PM.

However, I cannot understand, having had a sick child with suspected sepsis in A&E myself, what would ever motivate a person to snap a picture of their child in this position. When I think about it, your child is on the floor, you step away from him in order to get a good vantage point with a phone in your hand. When my son was ill, all I wanted to do was to be as close to him as possible. I would never have compromised his dignity and privacy by taking a picture. I just can't understand this.

BertrandRussell · 09/12/2019 22:52

“ single journalist actually checking with Leeds Hospital about whether this actually happened.”
The chief executive and the chief medical officer of the Trust confirmed the story.

Actionhasmagic · 09/12/2019 22:53

This is exactly who he is. He doesn’t give a shit about that little boy or anyone else

Rhinosaurus · 09/12/2019 22:53

This was shared by a nursing colleague on Facebook.

Boris Johnson refuses to look at photo of child on hospital floor
daffodilbrain · 09/12/2019 22:56

It's all fake news. It was a set up by the mother. Fact

PortiaCastis · 09/12/2019 22:56

Blimey if nurses are sharing patients info on facebook surely they're breaking patient confidentiality

MarshaBradyo · 09/12/2019 22:57

It all reeks a bit including that FB post

Except the little boy ill on the floor, poor sausage

Rhinosaurus · 09/12/2019 23:03

@PortiaCastis I think the mother has already well and truly put paid to any confidentiality that boy had as an image of him in a vulnerable state asleep has been shared on all media platforms after his mother released it. Should the A&E department have no right to reply IF this is a publicity stunt?

heath48 · 09/12/2019 23:03

The Mother in this case is going to regret doing this,how barmy are some people,using a child for political gain.

What a dreadful shower of Politicians we have these days.

Wakingupnow · 09/12/2019 23:03

There is no way a senior nursing sister would go public with that. If she did, shes extremely stupid as it would probably end her career.

EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 09/12/2019 23:04

He was seen as soon as he got to the hospital because he bypassed A&E

He still ended up sleeping on the floor while in oxygen because of a shortage of beds

My grandson spent 5 hours in A&E last month on oxygen on his mum's knee because there were no beds . He's only 9 months old though

They hospital have issued a statement apologising ffs

I've sat for hours in a bloody storage room with a patient who had dementia because they had no beds and he was agitated in the waiting room because it was so full

BertrandRussell · 09/12/2019 23:05

“It's all fake news. It was a set up by the mother. Fact“
How do you know? Why hasn’t Matt Hancock confirmed that it’s a fake?

BertrandRussell · 09/12/2019 23:07

My psychotic 78 year old mil spent 12 hours on a plastic chair in a&e at the BRI last month.

Rhinosaurus · 09/12/2019 23:08

Who’s to say what is more fake - the picture or the Facebook post?

Snowy111 · 09/12/2019 23:11

What was not fake was BJs astonishing behaviour

EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 09/12/2019 23:14

If it's fake news why are they reporting that the hospital have apologised? Apparently they've not seen this many admission to a&e since I think it was 2016. Still no excuse though and not the hospital staffs fault

BertrandRussell · 09/12/2019 23:14

“Who’s to say what is more fake - the picture or the Facebook post?“

One of them is confirmed by the Chief Executive and Chief Medical Officer of the Trust. And not discredited by Matt Hancock after he visited the hospital. And the other..... isn’t.

Bluebutterfly90 · 09/12/2019 23:18

No idea how anyone could vote tory. They've been in power for a decade.
At this point they're either actively resentful and cruel towards every day people or they're the worst kind of incompetent.
I know what I think.
But whatever, cover your ears and call it fake. Clearly you haven't been to an A&E recently.

IAmUniquelyMe · 09/12/2019 23:18

Let's look at the two issues here.

The child is being treated. Would it have been better to have him and his parents in the waiting room until a bed became available? If no bed then he should have been put in a comfy chair somewhere or his parents should have held him. What happened is the result of Leeds Teaching Hospitals centralising their children's A&E service from two hospitals in Leeds to just one. It's not all about lack of funds. It's about how you manage those funds.

I fully support the NHS. But it will always be a moneypit. That's the result of endless innovation and new treatments and drugs coming along. Coupled with a bigger and ageing population, no amount of money given to it will ever be enough. So choices have to be made by governments, by the hospital executives and by citizens. We all have a part to play. That includes all of us contributing more in taxes.

Boris's response was pretty poor indeed. He was caught on the hop and became flustered. It was not a good look. But also not a good look are the parents allowing their child's situation to be used by journalists and political parties to score points. Wasn't a complaint to the hospital enough? But I forgot their 15 minutes of fame was more important.

I'm not sure who I will vote, but my decision will not be based on a front page image of a sick child. I'm not that easily manipulated.

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