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AIBU to be shit scared of BJ winning the next election?

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thentherewerefour · 06/12/2019 10:31

Not sure how everyone else is doing, but I am just increasingly terrified about the idea that BJ and the likes of Jacob Rees-Morgan, Ian Duncan Smith (god they are just so disgusting Angry) are going to win this election. Got family in Australia and this morning it was raining ash and people literally can't breathe. The Tories are going to do nothing, zero, nada about climate change. And when I look at my kids I just don't know how we are going to survive another five years. and don't get my started about the state of the kid's school - the teachers are doing their best, but the reality is it's a shit show bc of how many cuts they have had. Friends are going canvassing for Labour and me and DH are doing our bit too - but it all just feels surreal - BJ talks shit, tells lies, and has reinvented himself as "new" when the fucker has been IN GOVT for years. Any got any ideas on how we can turn this around?

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JolieOBrien · 06/12/2019 15:00

Also what about the nuclear weapons? If Jeremy gets in he will get rid of them and that means the UK is helpless and have no nuclear deterrent. I am afraid for the UK if this man gets in power because he will not want a Brexit and will make us all vote again which means another 12 months of waiting to leave the EU. I just hope that people will see sense and don't vote for Labour.

I come from a very poor background and my family always voted Labour but Jeremy has views that I don't agree with at all. My Great Grandmother was a Polish Jew who came to this country to start a new life and Jeremy has not cracked down on anti-semitism in the Labour party and continues to deny there is problem with it in his party.

CatintheFireplace · 06/12/2019 15:01

@PBo83 in what way do you believe that the conservatives will provide equality of opportunity? Genuinely interested. As far as I can see, if you are born into a poor family, or born disabled, then a Tory government would be disastrous, whereas if you are born to millionaires it might not be so bad.

KeithPartridge · 06/12/2019 15:05

Food bank use up 3000% in the last five years. Police, prison and probation services decimated. Operations cancelled day after day and the NHS on its knees. One in four children in poverty. John Major campaigning against his own party, imploring people to stop Johnson getting his majority.

And what do people say? But Corbyn....

JolieOBrien · 06/12/2019 15:05

@CatintheFireplace

I was born into a very poor family and have worked hard to make a better life for myself and my family. My mother was single mother in the 60s and there were no benefits so she had to work hard to support me while I was looked after by my Grandmother who already had 5 children to look after.

I have thought about this and I don't want someone like Jeremy Corbyn in power ... maybe if Labour had a different leader I might vote for them. I actually voted twice for Tony Blair but he lied to us.

Span1elsRock · 06/12/2019 15:10

As a business owner, I'm terrified of Labour getting in.

The fact that anyone would even contemplate voting Labour after the mess they left the country in the last time beggars belief.

KeithPartridge · 06/12/2019 15:11

To Johnson lying is like breathing ffs. If people still put their faith in him despite EVERYONE knowing he is a sneaky, immoral, duplicitous liar, then no sympathy when it all goes wrong. Which it will.

Nat6999 · 06/12/2019 15:11

The Tories have made life unbearable for anyone who is poor, sick, disabled & old. Put them through inhuman assessments by companies who are paid for how many they turn down for benefits, pay the assessors to lie about the health of claimants, ignore medical evidence from the doctors & hospitals who know them best, give them bonuses for every claimant they claim doesn't fit the criteria for benefits. They have introduced universal credit which has made life impossible, made claimants wait 5 weeks before they get paid & have to take out loans that have to be paid back out of future benefits, when you are living on the breadline before paying loans back, have no savings to fall back on, are unable to pay your rent & have to rely on food banks to feed your family. Under universal credit many disabled people are worse off, they have to choose between heating or eating, they are unable to afford to go to doctors & hospital appointments so don't get necessary treatment. The Tories just want all these people to die off so they don't have to pay them, that is the real truth about universal credit.

KeithPartridge · 06/12/2019 15:12

And of course, no one gives a crap about NI and how Johnson's crappy deal is going to screw then over leading to disaster.

WorkingAsHardAsICan · 06/12/2019 15:13

It will not be as much as an issue as if Labour get in

DowntownAbby · 06/12/2019 15:14

I'd be waaay more scared of Corbyn winning.

But he's not going to.

Faffette · 06/12/2019 15:14

@thentherewerefourJolieOBrien

Ah well, if you made it OK, anybody else should too, if only they worked hard enough.

Opportunity is only good if you are able to grab it.

KeithPartridge · 06/12/2019 15:15

Yeah but Corbyn. That's all Tory voters say.Confused

PBo83 · 06/12/2019 15:20

Opportunity is only good if you are able to grab it.

I'm not sure I understand, why would you not be able to 'grab' an opportunity, surely, by it's definition, an opportunity is there to be grabbed.

Faffette · 06/12/2019 15:24

@thentherewerefour

I suppose it depends by what you mean by that.

Some people can't work, do not have the confidence, have mental health issues, addiction etc. So it doesn't matter if in theory they are given opportunities, they just can't do anything about it.

But you may have meant something else.

PhilCornwall1 · 06/12/2019 15:32

YABU - no matter who gets in, it's going to be a shit show. I'm losing no sleep over it.

OlaEliza · 06/12/2019 15:33

Where do people think austerity came from? It was what had to be brought in to mop up after the previous labour government, all the labour voters seems to forget that!!

KidLorneRoll · 06/12/2019 15:38

Aye, because the problems with the economy had absolutely nothing to do with the global economic meltdown, did they.

The tories economic record over the last 9 years has been fucking woeful, but what they have is a media largely controlled by their rich chums and so bullshit narratives like that are the ones people hear.

Faffette · 06/12/2019 15:39

@OlaEliza

Of course, because Labour is responsible for the 2008 crash, don't you know.

KeithPartridge · 06/12/2019 15:39

There was a GLOBAL RECESSION. Labour left a national debt of £759 million and despite austerity and services being slashed like crazy, the Tories have added ONE TRILLION to it,

What's the definition of insanity again? Oh yes, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. 😖

Roll on Irish reunification so at least we in NI can get out of the shitshow that is the UK and stay with the EU.

Roselilly36 · 06/12/2019 15:41

More scared of JC

KidLorneRoll · 06/12/2019 15:48

"Roll on Irish reunification"

Ditto scottish independence, which a tory brexit will undoubtedly lead to which will be the only good thing to come out of what is looking like the result next week.

KeithPartridge · 06/12/2019 15:52

Totally agree Kid. I hope people in both Scotland and NI can make something good come out of this. Leave England and Wales behind. We're not voting for the con artist and his English nationalist party so why should be suffer?

CendrillonSings · 06/12/2019 15:54

Yeah but Corbyn. That's all Tory voters say.

Given that he’s a economically-illiterate socialist who would bankrupt the country and who leads a party stuffed to the gills with antisemites, “Corbyn” is all they need to say!

CendrillonSings · 06/12/2019 15:55

Labour left a national debt of £759 million

They also left an annual deficit of well over 100 billion pounds a year, but you conveniently omit that point! Grin

RunningAwaywiththeCircus · 06/12/2019 15:57

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