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AIBU to be shit scared of BJ winning the next election?

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thentherewerefour · 06/12/2019 10:31

Not sure how everyone else is doing, but I am just increasingly terrified about the idea that BJ and the likes of Jacob Rees-Morgan, Ian Duncan Smith (god they are just so disgusting Angry) are going to win this election. Got family in Australia and this morning it was raining ash and people literally can't breathe. The Tories are going to do nothing, zero, nada about climate change. And when I look at my kids I just don't know how we are going to survive another five years. and don't get my started about the state of the kid's school - the teachers are doing their best, but the reality is it's a shit show bc of how many cuts they have had. Friends are going canvassing for Labour and me and DH are doing our bit too - but it all just feels surreal - BJ talks shit, tells lies, and has reinvented himself as "new" when the fucker has been IN GOVT for years. Any got any ideas on how we can turn this around?

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Faffette · 06/12/2019 14:25

Yes. Corbyn is soooo much worse than Boris.

BMW6 · 06/12/2019 14:27

I quite look forward to his victory as it will finally enable Labour to get an electable leader

You think JC would step down if Labour lose this GE? Cos I don't. I think he'll hang on like a limpet.

Faffette · 06/12/2019 14:29

Corbyn is evil. He lies under your bed at night. He will steal your house and make you sing communist songs. He wants to destroy you. Burn money and allow 2 day weeks, running businesses to the ground. He will make everyone grow their own vegetables. There won't be any more electricity, it will be like the 70s...

TheRightHonerable · 06/12/2019 14:30

You’re entitled to feel the way that you do - just as I’m entitled to be terrified that JC may win 🤯😱

Honestly I’ve never known anybody more determined to ignore illogical ridiculousness than labour voters right now. Throwing stones at Tory voters which are so hypocritical they were no doubt produced by the Torys and sold labour at an inflated price ‘who cares after all they’ve got an endless magical budget 👍🏻‘

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/12/2019 14:32

I think he'll hang on like a limpet

That's exactly what worries some of us if they lose - and not just about Corbyn, but several others too

You'd think they'd have to see sense if they ever want to be elected, but as I said, we could so easily be in this same position 5 years down the line

Faffette · 06/12/2019 14:34

@TheRightHonerable

Yeap, you are entitled. You are entitled to be scared of clowns and to think the earth is flat. That doesn't mean that you are right.

Endless magical budget? Do you mean the one that paid for the pointless Brexit ad campaign?

RunningAwaywiththeCircus · 06/12/2019 14:34

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Faffette · 06/12/2019 14:35

@Puzzledandpissedoff

I think they should do what all parties do anyway. Provide a right leaning manifesto and then when they are elected, just do whatever they want.

Faffette · 06/12/2019 14:36

@RunningAwaywiththeCircus

That is what it is all about. People following people. Scared to try something different.

stairway · 06/12/2019 14:36

A labour minority government would be great. Any of their silly policies would never get through and brexit would never happen.
A majority conservative government would be terrible. Brexit with a bad deal, a failing economy and a huge devise between rich and poor.

SillyUnMurphy · 06/12/2019 14:37

What a bull shit propaganda post. Utterly pathetic. I also have no clue what your reference to Australia and raining ash means. Until China and India do something to address mass production and climate change what more do you think the UK can do?

YouJustDoYou · 06/12/2019 14:40

"Why can't Labour afford it?"

The independent fact checking charity full fact says;

Labour todayreleased figuresthat they said showed that costs to the average family had risen by almost £6,000 since 2010, while Labour policies would save the average family £6,700

Very few of these figures represent what “average families” will save under Labour’s policies, or how much more those families have had to pay under the Conservatives

More than three quarters of the supposed “savings” come from just two large costs, rail season tickets and childcare, neither of which comes close to reflecting what an average family actually pays. In England, two fifths of families don’t pay anything for childcare; only 5% of people use a train more than three times a week

Some of the smaller figures seem fair estimates of savings that might come about if Labour’s policies were implemented, but they overstate the extra costs families have faced since 2010

Labour are also inconsistent in whether they adjust for inflation (the rise in prices over time). They show the change in prices over the Conservative government unadjusted for inflation, but then present the change in wages during that time adjusted for inflation, by which measure wages have slightly fallen since 2010. This inconsistency exaggerates the total increase in costs families have faced since 2010

I can't trust Labour's lying.

fullfact.org/election-2019/labour-claims-about-savings-under-their-policies-are-not-credible/

MarshmallowMuggle · 06/12/2019 14:41

Stop trading with India and China, along with other countries, until they clean up?

And that won’t happen....

Faffette · 06/12/2019 14:44

@thentherewerefour

What do they say about the Conservatives manifesto? Which is most frightening?

Actionhasmagic · 06/12/2019 14:44

Very scary - I’m worried for our nhs and families future

Thornhill58 · 06/12/2019 14:44

I can't wait for the Conservatives to win. People should be terrified of Labour.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/12/2019 14:46

A majority conservative government would be terrible

I guess that would depend on how big the majority was

From the horrible alternatives, I'd be least uncomfortable with a small Tory majority - enough to keep Corbyn et al out, but hopefully too little to allow policies from the other extreme through

DearODearieMe · 06/12/2019 14:50

I'm not voting for an anti-semite but a racist misogynist homophobe is totally fine."

Agree, neither get my vote.

JolieOBrien · 06/12/2019 14:51

If Corbyn gets in all the rich people he is going to tax will go and live abroad in a tax haven ... where will Jeremy get his money from then? I don't earn a lot but if he gets in I will move abroad to avoid Labour's tax increase. Jeremy Corbyn is a rich millionaire who is pretending to be one of the people. He has a rich Mexican wife who has her own company and owns a lot of property abroad in Mexico and other places. Don't be fooled by his I am just an ordinary person because he is not and neither is Boris Johnson but he is not pretending to be what he is not like unlike Jeremy Corbyn.

Thornhill58 · 06/12/2019 14:52

@JeffreeStar Austerity happens with the conservatives because the left let too many people into the country, let too many ppl live of the state etc
The nhs is a mess because of all the ppl who abuse the system.

Inform yourself you are embarrassing. It was during Blair's premiership that millions came to this country. We can't control the flow as long as we are in the EU.
The NHS isn't in a mess because of the Conservatives.

WappersReturns · 06/12/2019 14:53

Interesting to see that the links to the IFS statement on the Conservative manifesto have been glossed over. I'm not sure how anyone can read those two links and still say it's Corbyn who would trash the economy tbh.

Tensixtysix · 06/12/2019 14:54

Corbyn and his minions, now that's scary 'Nightmare before Christmas'!

PBo83 · 06/12/2019 14:55

I will be voting Conservative believe I believe that equality of opportunity is more important than equality of outcome.

PBo83 · 06/12/2019 14:55

*because

Justasconfusedwithnumber2 · 06/12/2019 14:56

I am also far more worried about a hung parliament or corbyn getting in. I am more likely to give up my children than vote for labour next week