AIBU to be shit scared of BJ winning the next election?

[thentherewerefour]

Not sure how everyone else is doing, but I am just increasingly terrified about the idea that BJ and the likes of Jacob Rees-Morgan, Ian Duncan Smith (god they are just so disgusting ) are going to win this election. Got family in Australia and this morning it was raining ash and people literally can't breathe. The Tories are going to do nothing, zero, nada about climate change. And when I look at my kids I just don't know how we are going to survive another five years. and don't get my started about the state of the kid's school - the teachers are doing their best, but the reality is it's a shit show bc of how many cuts they have had. Friends are going canvassing for Labour and me and DH are doing our bit too - but it all just feels surreal - BJ talks shit, tells lies, and has reinvented himself as "new" when the fucker has been IN GOVT for years. Any got any ideas on how we can turn this around?

Somebody said to James O’Brian on LBC (so shoot me!) “The main reason I want Brexit is because it pisses off people like you”

It's the best argument for Brexit I've ever heard.

It’s the only one.

@EntropyRising .

Jo Swinson makes me want to Brexit. But Brexit is still total bollocks and the Tories will never do anything but hurt the poorest and enrich themselves. Scum.

“In 2001, Diane Abbott was one of 17 MPs who voted against designating groups like: Al Qa'ida, Hamas, Islamic Jihad & the Tamil Tigers as terrorists”

Are you talking about the 2001 Act? The one that was shown to be against the Human Rights Act and which many Tory front benchers also voted against?

I’m talking about Labour planning to put someone who plainly doesn’t give a fuck about national security and public safety in charge of our national security and public safety next week.

“I’m talking about Labour planning to put someone who plainly doesn’t give a fuck about national security and public safety in charge of our national security and public safety next week.“

And you think that because she voted against a rushed ad flawed bill in 2001? Right.

A rushed and flawed bill, incidentally, tabled by a Labour Home Secretary!

And you think the party who oversaw massive cuts in police numbers is a better bet on public safety?

better than bankrupting the country.

which labour nearly did when they were last in.

abbott has many flaws which you can find if you google. i am not going to go over them one by one with you.

And you think the party who oversaw massive cuts in police numbers is a better bet on public safety?

I'd be in a much tougher spot were Teresa May still the PM, but I'd still never vote for Corbyn.

And you think the party who oversaw massive cuts in police numbers is a better bet on public safety?

Since Boris is restoring 20,000 police officers and Corbyn is on the record as opposing virtually every anti-terrorism measure proposed during his entire career, absolutely!

Labour did not bankrupt the country @bluebell34567, a global financial crisis and bailing the banks out did that. 163 internationally renowned economists endorse Labour’s spending plans.

163 internationally renowned economists endorse Labour’s spending plans.

I love how that figure is trotted out as if it means anything. The most prominent economist on that list used to serve as an advisor ... to the Labour Party! Of course he endorses their crackpot schemes!

Well the latest polls out Conservatives comfortably ahead

Polls from last nights debate put Boris Johnson’s slightly ahead and a clear majority backed his Brexit stance

It’s looking good for Conservatives not so good for Labour

And LibDems have fallen by the wayside (unsurprisingly) and SNP solid support in Scotland

Well that’s another five years of Tory rule

“ abbott has many flaws which you can find if you google. i am not going to go over them one by one with you.”
Of course she has. Just wondering which in particular you were worried about?

Cendrillon I’ve asked you this three times across various threads and you’ve ignored me each and every time. Actually, not one Tory supporter is able to defend this.

Why is it ok to criticise Jeremy Corbyn for holding talks with terrorists, but not criticise Boris Johnson for approving the sale of weapons to regimes that support terrorism? That fund the terrorist groups that commit atrocities in British soil? That is far more of a security risk yet time and after time you refuse to answer me.

It makes your arguments look incredibly weak, hypocritical, and honestly nonsensical.

I just finished reading Dangerous Hero. It was unexpectedly funny but also a deeply depressing read. To me it confirms Corbyn’s weakness and lack of intellect, his juvenile black and white approach to issues and his narcissism, which when combined with nonsensical far-left economic policies would make this country a very very difficult place to live in if he became PM.

There was a letter in the Times today about the fact that many of us feel that we don’t necessarily want another Tory government but that we’re forced to vote Tory to prevent the catastrophic damage we feel this Labour government would do to the country. I know many of us are caught between a rock and a hard place but it seems to me that people who vote for Corbyn simply cannot know anything about the effects of a hard left economic policy on a nation. This kind of policy does not work, it never works, and It leaves economic and social devastation in its wake.

The Labour Party is extremely important and when you think about the absolutely brilliant people and leaders who have sat on those benches over the decades, and the positive changes they have brought this country, it is blood heart-breaking to see the likes of Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott now leading this party. When the Tories are safely in next week, please God, I will pay £3 to join the Labour Party and support for leadership any candidate for leadership who is a centrist so that we don’t have to go through this insanity again in another 5 years. That person can kick out the communists and the party can get back to decent policies that might win it an election. Quite honestly I think any British person who cares about politics and this country should also pay their £3 and do the same thing.

Nobody seriously thinks the Labour Manifesto is Hard Left, do they? Surely not!

Labour were responsible for the last global financial crisis, were they? Who knew the UK had such sway in the world - even under the EU, we were ruling the bloody waves - we could wreak havoc and destruction globally. Fucking amazing. Try reading up on the causes of the global recession in 2008 - top tip, read the articles on Sub-prime mortgages, in the USA - I think you'll find that's where the ripple started. And austerity was not the only way to solve the debt problem - the Tories could have chosen to promote growth but they didn't, they chose austerity and while we were all meant to be in it together it was the poorest that suffered disproportionately - and the funny thing is it's the poorest who are voting the bastards in again. Fucking unbelievable.

but not criticise Boris Johnson for approving the sale of weapons to regimes that support terrorism? That fund the terrorist groups that commit atrocities in British soil?

Your argument is a bit illogical, no? Surely if we are the ones selling them weapons, that means they have less money left for their funding of nefarious groups, doesn’t it?

abbott has many flaws which you can find if you google. i am not going to go over them one by one with you
Whereas BJ is virtually a saint! Why does Abbott get judged and BJ get excused?

Nobody seriously thinks the Labour Manifesto is Hard Left, do they? Surely not!

Everyone who’s not hard left themselves does, yes. Nationalising everything that isn’t nailed down and bringing back secondary strike action does give off that old 70s whiff something rotten!