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AIBU to be shit scared of BJ winning the next election?

754 replies

thentherewerefour · 06/12/2019 10:31

Not sure how everyone else is doing, but I am just increasingly terrified about the idea that BJ and the likes of Jacob Rees-Morgan, Ian Duncan Smith (god they are just so disgusting Angry) are going to win this election. Got family in Australia and this morning it was raining ash and people literally can't breathe. The Tories are going to do nothing, zero, nada about climate change. And when I look at my kids I just don't know how we are going to survive another five years. and don't get my started about the state of the kid's school - the teachers are doing their best, but the reality is it's a shit show bc of how many cuts they have had. Friends are going canvassing for Labour and me and DH are doing our bit too - but it all just feels surreal - BJ talks shit, tells lies, and has reinvented himself as "new" when the fucker has been IN GOVT for years. Any got any ideas on how we can turn this around?

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Purpletigers · 06/12/2019 23:09

I don’t like BJ at all but I prefer the idea of people taking responsibility for themselves and I do think people are starting to make more sensible choices re size of family , working for their family etc .
The problem in the U.K. and tbh the world is overpopulation. We don’t need everyone to be having children tbh . It makes sense that we encourage the strongest people to have children.

I for one wouldn’t want to have a large family to have them working crappy jobs to line someone else’s pockets . I’d rather have two and provide them with a good life . The next 100 years will see world governments introducing some form of population control if we don’t wise up and do it ourselves .

Sakura7 · 06/12/2019 23:11

How anyone can look at the job the Tories have done over the last nine years and say "yes, this is an example of a strong, competent government that has made a positive impact on people's lives", I really don't know. What the hell is wrong with people? How can anyone repeatedly vote against their own interests?

CendrillonSings · 06/12/2019 23:13

How can anyone repeatedly vote against their own interests?

It’s in our interests to have the country bankrupted by antisemitic socialists?

It’s a view, I guess...

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/12/2019 23:13

FWIW there's some info from the latest ipsos/MORI surveys here ... I was interested to see 48% apparently think Labour's having a bad campaign (up 9 points in a week)

www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/conservatives-hold-12-point-lead-over-labour-heading-final-week-election-campaign

Saddler · 06/12/2019 23:14

I'm worried about Corbyn winning

justcly · 06/12/2019 23:18

I'd rather give Corbyn a chance to prove me wrong than give Johnson another chance to prove me right.

Sakura7 · 06/12/2019 23:21

Cendrillon Maybe for once, instead of attacking Labour, you could actually speak positively about what the Tories have to offer? What have they done in the last nine years to improve our society and make a positive difference to people's lives?

Also, it's hypocritical to bring up antisemitism while ignoring the racism and misogyny that prevails in the Tory party. The leader's past behaviour being a prime example.

Alsohuman · 06/12/2019 23:22

I'd rather give Corbyn a chance to prove me wrong than give Johnson another chance to prove me right

Best post on the thread.

Misseuropadiscodancer · 06/12/2019 23:22

It's not like the Tories would do anything antisemitic, like erecting a statue to a m own Nazi...oh wait...

Misseuropadiscodancer · 06/12/2019 23:23

*known Nazi

Logjam · 06/12/2019 23:31

I'm hoping for a hung parliament - none of the fuckers get their way.

CendrillonSings · 06/12/2019 23:32

What have they done in the last nine years to improve our society and make a positive difference to people's lives?

Well the main thing has been to reduce the deficit and restore the economy, which was on life support in 2010. The last two years have been worse, because our system makes it impossible to govern in any kind of meaningful way without a majority. That’s why I hope the voters will give Boris a majority so that we can have 5 clear years of strong government, and economic confidence and business investment can revive, which will in turn drive investment in public services.

Logjam · 06/12/2019 23:33

I will be the target of significant tax rises by Labour and I’ll happily pay (even) more tax if it means a fairer society. I’m already in the 50% or whatever it now is bracket. This country is more unequal now than i ever recall it being. I don’t rate Corbyn as a leader but as a human being with genuinely held principles he is in a different league to the shit stain is Boris. 100% agree!

Namenamename1 · 06/12/2019 23:33

Don’t have time to read the full thread, but OP I am with you. I feel exactly the same as your original post. I’m also genuinely terrified.

ArseDarkly · 06/12/2019 23:34

I'd rather give Corbyn a chance to prove me wrong than give Johnson another chance to prove me right.

Perfectly summed up! Smile

Misseuropadiscodancer · 06/12/2019 23:36

No true. Deficit has more than doubled since 2010. UK has lowest deficit in G7 in 2010. Crisis caused by global crash and bankers gambling. Let's deal in facts shall we?

CendrillonSings · 07/12/2019 00:03

No true. Deficit has more than doubled since 2010.

Quote me the statistics to illustrate your point, you humourous person. And make sure they reference the deficit.

UtterlyPerfectCartoonGiraffe · 07/12/2019 00:22

“More has been borrowed - £46.3 billion - only seven months into the current financial year than in the entire previous one, and 10% more has been borrowed than it was April-October 2018. This marks the end of seven consecutive years of narrowing deficit.”

Cendrillon, you’re right that the deficit has fallen (while the debt has risen) but you’ve just reminded me of this. Doesn’t seem in very safe hands with Boris Johnson so far does it.

www.theweek.co.uk/104475/conservatives-run-massive-october-deficit-as-election-approaches

ZandathePanda · 07/12/2019 00:41

BEING EXTORTED

Is the true anagram of the phrase tic BJ can’t stop saying

JulyKit · 07/12/2019 00:44

I don’t like BJ at all but I prefer the idea of people taking responsibility for themselves and I do think people are starting to make more sensible choices re size of family , working for their family etc .
The problem in the U.K. and tbh the world is overpopulation. We don’t need everyone to be having children tbh . It makes sense that we encourage the strongest people to have children.

Are you suggesting that Johnson functions as some sort of contraceptive device?
I know he's ugly, but surely that's a step too far.

AJGranny · 07/12/2019 00:45

@Alsohuman pls check your PMs.

RicePuffs · 07/12/2019 01:20

Yanbu

Johnson doesn’t care about decent public services, access to legal aid , a fairer economic system or the climate crisis. The world needs leaders who are willing to tackle the climate crisis. There are options to provide prosperity and a sustainable future such as the global green new deal. It’s not on Conservatives radar.

The level of wealth inequality in the UK is much worse than many other countries in the developed world. According to an IPPR report “Wealth is much more unequally distributd than income: whereas the median income in the top 10 per cent is around seven times the median income in the bottom 10 per cent, the median wealth of the top 10 per cent is 315 times the median in the bottom 10 per cent”.

Economic growth is v sluggish and wages are lower in real terms than they were pre 2008. However, the top 1% have seen their income ago up by 180%. There is a lot of money in the finance sector but they are not investing it.

Johnson will do a trade deal with US and he will not care if it benefits mostly his rich mates. The trade deals he does will affect the UK for generations and I dont trust him.

RicePuffs · 07/12/2019 01:39

Just to add, I saw this on twitter which I thinks gives more reasons to not want Conservatives to get a majority.

“Tommy Robinson wants Boris Johnson to win the GE, as do Trump, Putin, Bolsonaro, Orban & the worst humans on Earth.

Ex-Tory PM John Major advises you not to vote Tory & compares trusting Johnson with the NHS to leaving a pet hamster with a hungry python.”

multivac · 07/12/2019 01:42

It makes sense that we encourage the strongest people to have children

Jesus fucking Christ

kmammamalto · 07/12/2019 03:05

Can anyone explain the anti-Semitism stuff to me?! All I hear on the news is that people are 'accused of being antisemitic', and reading the same thing over and over here but no evidence.of what Cornyn or anyone else has actually said or done!?
I have to wonder how that can be a reason to vote Tory when there is in fact plenty of evidence of racism in their party...