To think that only posh people say Father Christmas?!

[charliesp]

And everyone else says Santa?

I say Santa but my posh DH and all his family and posh friends say Father Christmas.

Anyone else noticed this? Or AIBU?

Yep definitely Americanism

Oh my fucking god ... 🤦

I got a deletion I was so mad. (Totally not against any Mumsnet rules though Wasn't a personal attack on anyone in particular.)

Funny how Mumsnet let xenophobia comments stand. They would delete them if it were about anywhere but the US.

Funny how Mumsnet let xenophobia comments stand. They would delete them if it were about anywhere but the US.

I've reported quite a few really horrible anti-American posts. None of them were removed.

There aren't enough🤦‍♀️ in the world for this thread.

I’ve never been deleted but I might go for it if there are many more Flumpywoos. Might report as an obvious troll.

Again! for the love of fuckn Santa Claus R T F T 😡😡😡
@Flumpywoo

It's hilarious how so many posters on this thread are simultaneously proud of their working class roots (don't wanna be getting notions)p & their xenophobia.

The odd stealth boast is entertaining too. Bet the ones who slip it in are really not “posh” at all.

I debated reporting the anti American comments, I'm very sure they wouldn't be allowed to stand if they were about some other countries.

If there's was a thread with lots of - yuk India. Tacky India. Common nasty Indians. You sure as shit know those comments should be getting deleted and the poster warned.

Threads like these are precisely why I will never moved back to England. A few narrow minded people are really doing the country a lot of harm.

Don't people just love to take offence on here where there was none intended. It isn't a criticism to say something is American, it is that from my own experience British/English people used to use Father Christmas but due to American (ok, global, sorry) influences Santa is more common now. It even tells you on BBC America than Americans refer to him as Santa (see attached). I want to keep the Father Christmas name the same as I sometimes still call Starburst "Opal Fruits" as this is what they used to be called. But hey ho, go and feel like some of us are insulting Americans when I am not whatsoever.

You're insulting Scottish, Irish and Welsh people now who dont call him Father Christmas as standard and never have. Dont say British when you know you just mean English.

Did you read the thread @Flumpywoo?

And you do understand that British people are not just English?

Also I am not saying it originates from America, but that Americans refer to him as Santa, and we watch American programmes and films, so this is possibly why people use the term more nowadays. Because I want to stick to my tradition doesn't mean I am anti-American, it is a preference of using a name
because of my own childhood experience.

I have read the thread but not all the comments, but responding to people saying people like me are anti-American/being critical. Yes I can see now that Irish and Scottish people use the term Santa, but it's not something I have ever paid attention to, I don't watch many Irish or Scottish programmes. And yes I do know that there are more British people than just English, I'm not stupid. Sorry that I didn't say "British, or more specifically English" rather than "British/English". Sometimes people write thjngs in a hurry!
Anyway I have better things to do so have fun arguing and picking at people's posts!!!

It isn't a criticism to say something is American

No, but saying something is a 'tacky' Americanism that makes the person saying it sound 'common' is unpleasant and wouldn't be tolerated if it were about Indians, or Kenyans, or Vietnamese sayings.

"Anyway I have better things to do so have fun arguing and picking at people's posts"

Ah yes, the usual flounce when someone makes themselves look like an idiot.

I find the whole FC "is nicer" thing perplexing.

Santa Claus is a derivative of Saint Nicholas, the patron saint of children.

"His reputation evolved among the faithful, as was common for early Christian saints, and his legendary habit of secret gift-giving gave rise to the traditional model of Santa Claus through Sinterklaas."

Both terms are equally valid and traditional depending on where you live, but i can't understand why FC is perceived as somehow "nicer". Odd.

Irish and Scottish people use the term Santa, but it's not something I have ever paid attention to

Hitting the nail on the head there. We're not worth thinking about. And as far as the media is concerned, Britain is England. How lovely...

Hope Santa shits in the stockings of some of the posters on this thread

It even tells you on BBC America than Americans refer to him as Santa (see attached).

And BBC America has gone to all the different regions and 50 states to come to this conclusion? This is like going to an “American” restaurant in England and assuming this is the way Americans make their food when more often than not it is the British interpretation of it.

Yes, many Americans say Santa Claus, but not all. Many Brits say Father Christmas, but not all as has been said countless times on this very thread. Most Americans wouldn’t bat an eye because funny enough we know the different names for Santa Claus and don’t care which name you use.