To think that only posh people say Father Christmas?!

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And everyone else says Santa?

I say Santa but my posh DH and all his family and posh friends say Father Christmas.

Anyone else noticed this? Or AIBU?

I have found my people at last - Im common as muck but - all hail Father Christmas

Santa sucks

Again, I’m not responsible for what other people post. So I’m not sure why you levelled that comment at me to begin with.

All of my comments were in response to people tagging me, personally, calling me xenophobic when I’d said nothing of the sort. Which I felt was unfair and wrong.

You said Santa is an Americanism, which is always used as a negative when used on MN

If you took it that way, that’s your issue. I never meant it as a negative at all. Simply just stating a fact.

@FeckArseMerlot

I accept that in many parts of England and Wales it's FC.

It's very annoying to hear Santa is an American import. Maybe in England that's true due to the influence of US film and media, but in Ireland it's always been Santy or Santa, and in Scotland is pretty much the same.

Santa Claus is certainly derived from St Nicholas. although it's unclear why certain parts of Christianity refer to him as FC.

Santa would be very disappointed in you all if he read this thread

It was always Father Christmas when I was little. At school I wrote a story about him but didn’t know how to spell father, so it was Daddy Christmas.

Isn’t Santa Claus just forrin for Saint Nicholas? As long as he’s fat and jolly, and brings me nice things then I don’t mind what he’s called.

HOWEVER, it bugs the shit out of me to hear him called Sanna in American movies. Talk proper, yer scrubber.

The word “Santa” is tacky? Riiiiight. Might have reached the very pinnacle of the ridiculous now.

Working class northern girl I say father Christmas I think it sounds much nicer, unfortunately I'm married to a Scot who says Santa

@Pantalaimon88, so having learned that Santa is just as British as Father Christmas I guess you would have less of an issue with children using it the describe the big man?

Not one person has called you xenophobic. People have pointed out that there have been xenophobic comments made on this thread. Fuck hell. Are you slow witted or deliberately being difficult?

@SquareAsABlock please find the post where I said I had an issue with it to begin with.

There’s an AWFUL lot of projecting on this thread.

Father Christmas is definitely more middle class.
When people say Santa I just cringe.

@SleighOfSparkliness

HOWEVER, it bugs the shit out of me to hear him called Sanna in American movies. Talk proper, yer scrubber.

Are you fucking kidding? My kid has an American accent. I'm not actually going to say what I want to to you as I'll get deleted. But you're a £%}^#£}{.

Mumsnet is really sad and disgusting sometimes.

I don't regard myself as posh... but I have never used Santa, except the full Santa Clause when referring by name.

I don't agree with the anti-American sentiments, but just because Santa comes from Sinterklaas, that doesn't actually prove that the 'Santa' version isn't/wasn't primarily American.

I'm not particularly posh and prefer Father Christmas, not because Santa is an Americanism (if indeed it is), but because as a speaker of Spanish and a bit of Italian, 'santa' to me is the word for a female saint, which feels a bit odd to describe an old man with a big beard. Plus I was brought up saying Father Christmas. I suspect my parents thought it was 'a bit common' to say santa.

@Pantalaimon88, you said that you use FC as Santa is an American import. Why (wrongly) state that if you didnt have an issue with using the latter? Don't pretend you weren't insinuating exactly what every other 'but it's a tacky Americanism' ignoramus has been posting on this thread.

Oh wow. So now the word Santa is firmly superglued in the minds of some as being an Americanism because of the relatively new thing, the Coca Cola truck?! 😜😂

"Father Christmas is definitely more middle class.
When people say Santa I just cringe."

OH MY GOD, HOW MANY TIMES!!

Santa. Is. Not. An. Americanism.

How many more times?

Sorry!
Only just got in from work & haven’t rtft.

But you’d think I personally killed William Wallace, with the abuse I’m getting.

No, I think that was the blue-faced arse-waving in Braveheart.

Seriously, though, it gets a bit irritating from an Irish point of view to be told every year on Mn that Hallowe'en is a tacky American import, without also getting it in the neck about Santa managing to be both disgustingly common and American.

And this thread is now giving me flashbacks to some terrible rhyme I'd happily forgotten for 40 years about Dadaí na Nollaig coming 'anuas an simléar'...

@dirtyrottenscoundrel, so your saying Scottish, Irish, N Irish, Americans and so forth and what? Common? Working class? This thread is way beyond FC and really shedding some light on a few English people's mentality towards other people.

Scottish here- never used the term Father Christmas. Always Santa

@SquareAsABlock Please stop adding “meaning” to my words that were never there to begin with. If you read what I said in that way, that’s your issue and not mine.

Me saying 'Father Christmas' in the States is usually met with 'who the he'll is that?' but actually now loss of people here have adopted it instead of Santa.