Are the conservatives really this popular?

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Listening to statistician on BBC who reckons the conservatives are head in all polls and will win a majority on election day.

I know only two people voting conservative (mil and dm). Who are all the other conservative voters??

Are the conservatives really going to win the election so easily?

If so...I'm very very sad

I would also like to see an awful lot more thanks for those women and men who pay a lot of tax. Instead I feel like the dog dirt of hte nation at times - that I must be dreadful or must evade tax. We could start with an email from HMRC or letter of thanks for every XYZ of tax people pay. All this time of 5 day working weeks ! Wow I have worked full time without a break since 1983 not even to have babies in and I still work on just about every day of the year at least some of the time so that is 6 or 7 days albeit the weekend dsys tend to be shorter

I hope it's made you happy knowing that all your hard work for the last 36 years has gone to help the rest of society.

I am certainly grateful for all your hard work and your valued tax contribution.

Blackcherrybliss your reasoning is back to front. Labour would make sure that those in jobs like your husband's get paid proper sick pay and have certain rights as an employee that it sounds like he doesn't currently have. They would remove prescription charges and make sure that you can get free medicine. They would make sure that if you can't work due to illness you get proper benefits. They would support your family.

BUT that they want it spent intelligently. How can that be so controversial? You must know that there's always a certain percentage of inefficiency and wastage, that costs more to rectify that it saves - I think the constant pursuit of efficiency savings actually can be quite destructive and wasteful in itself. I run a business with my dh - we could save money in certain areas but we'd spend money in the process and I'm not sure the outcome would be mentally beneficial to our employees - apart from the easy wins - money saving can have costs further down the line that have not been considered. We don't want to pay more taxes but we also do not wish to live in a society that is so unbalanced - we want poor kids to feel like they have opportunity just like out kids have - we want to live in a fairer society and if we want that we have to pay for it.

No, labours plans would make sure her DH employers go out of business and we are all broke

Don’t people get it.

If the economy ranks, which it will under labour, inequality will be less because we will all be poorer.

Xenia, me, people on min wage, everyone will be poorer - the gap from top to bottom will be less but it won’t benefit anyone

Xenia, foreign aid is very important. We don't live in a bubble. We need to support democracy and peace in other countries to prevent destabilisation and war which would then affect the global economy. It's not being nice (although I wish it was). It's purely selfish.

That should be tanks not ranks

If the economy ranks, which it will under labour

And yet 163 internationally renowned economists - including one who’s changed his mind since 2016 - disagree with you.

Also Xenia, I do want my taxes spent intelligently. But for me that means spending money on cheap prevention rather than expensive 'cures'. More money on sure start and mum's groups rather than send support, more money on youth clubs, alternative education and youth workers rather than prisons, more money on gardens, parks, public transport and healthy eating education rather than diabetes medicine, more money on workers rights and minimum wage rather than benefits.

There have always been these scare stories about 'going out of business'. They were there when labour brought in the minimum wage and it just didn't happen.
And anyway, that's not the workers' fault. Why should the poorest in society suffer for a crap business model? It's probably rents that are screwing the business.

I'm quite happy for my taxes to go on all sorts of things: NHS, schools, transport, business loans, benefits, care, etc. What I'm not happy about is that my taxes pay benefits to top up the wages of people who are working. That really annoys me. Why should I subsidise business owners and shareholders who don't pay their workers enough to live on - asda, Amazon, Uber.... Essentially my taxes are going into the pockets of people who earn 100 times more than me.

Xenia, foreign aid is very important. We don't live in a bubble.

Reversible, I agree with completely. But at the same time I resent foreign aid going to countries that can afford to run a space program.

Whoops.
Reversible, I agree with you completely. But...

And while you might blame adults for laziness (I do not) - why penalise their kids but having a poorly funded education and health system - we can invest in the future of our young people but that will take a will and a cheque book but it will deliver a society that we can all benefit from. The Tories do not want to invest in our future - they want to focus and helping the rich stay rich at the expense of the poor and the country.

We certainly need to review the foreign aid budget, it could be spent so much better.

It is not me the left have to convince. More voters than not in the UK support Tory policies and I think it is farily likely there will be a Tory majority and the British people realise that that is a better choice than Corbyn. However we shall have to wait to see.

More voters than not in the UK support Tory policies

Do they though?

Really... Because if so, how come they only have 40% in the polls?

Of course they don’t, even landslide election victories have less than 50% of turn out for the winning party.

I guess the poll situation depends which source you read; I've been watching the FT averaged figures myself, and over the last week there's been a 10-11 point difference with the two main parties on low 40s / low 30s respectively

It doesn't really matter though, since the only poll that counts is on the 12th - and I'm still half expecting Boris to add to his other deceits by running a "Corbyn expose" (true or otherwise) in the last few days

More voters than not in the UK support Tory policies

Do they though?

Really... Because if so, how come they only have 40% in the polls?

Keep in mind that some parties have overlapping policies.

Labour/LibDem/Greens together share a broadly similar outlook 9Now self ID. Together they have 49% of the vote.

Conservative + Brexit Party share similar views on Brexit. The Tories are on 43% and Brexit party on 3%so 46% total.

Neither of my examples support the statement ‘most voters (51%) support Tory party policy’ though which is annoying because I thought they would. Are they close enough to be considered within an acceptable margin of error?

Get Brexit done - is sounding more moronic, the more Boris says it. It's become like an hypnotic chant - the zombies will vote with the get brexit done chant in their heads - to hell with everything else - at least they'll get that. Hot did people lives get to this?

Page 48 of the Tory manifesto basically says they will be able to overrule the law of the land and enact draconian & authoritarian restrictions on the UK state.

Not something I could vote for.

@JamesBlonde1 All of my family and Husband's family are voting Conservative but really want The Brexit Party. I don't know anyone who speaks highly of Traitor Corbyn in our family and extended family.

@nicky7654 apart from Brexit what do you want from politicians, or when Brexit is done will you lie down and be happy for ever more? Give us your wish list!

Thatcher won a landslide on 43.9% and Tony Blair on 43.2%

It’s not just the number of voters it’s where the seats are. Some constituencies have around 60,000 and some over 85,000 technically the winning party could receive less votes (this has happened can’t remember when but has favored both the main parties)

And agree about the NHS comments there seems to be an idea that all NHS workers as staunch Labour Party supports certainly not in my experience as varied as most work places

Unfortunately, people do seem to run more to the Conservatives during austerity - they become more afraid, more self-protective, less open and less public-spirited. Ironically, as it's the 10 years of austerity from the Conservatives that have put us here. I know quite a lot of people who are voting Conservative, and of my circle and I can categorically say they are the less well-educated and informed than the ones I know who are voting Labour. I have been a bit of a floating voter, but I will definitely vote to keep Boris Johnson out if at all possible. How people can trust him is beyond me compared to a man who has 2 international peace awards, has spent his life as a public servant working for constructive debate and yet is vilified by the Tory owned media which the masses blindly swallow without checking the facts.

Yes, the Conservatives are very popular here.

I live in a market town in the Midlands and everyone i know at work is voting Conservative. Family and friends too. A few friends and family will vote Lib Dem but I dont know any Labour supporters here (I know two in the North East).

People here are frightened of Labour and think theyre incompetent, especially Corbyn and Abbot. It’s an old, established, Tory safe seat and people are very traditional, own horses, have land, hunt, shoot etc. and support Brexit.

Theyre not heartless though. I know many who give blood regularly, work voluntarily with under privileged teenagers, support and volunteer at Christian outreach centres and give regularly to multiple charities and foodbanks and donate large sums at local charity balls (normally cancer or child related). The key thing is that they dont trust Labour. They want to help their community locally, not be taxed to the hilt and wonder if their money made it to a charity or not.

There’s certainly no shame around voting Conservative here. Yes, before anyone says it, I know I live in a bubble.