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To be horrified at the abuse towards Green Party candidate who said he wanted to ban halal (non stunned) slaughter?

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FreshFreesias · 30/11/2019 19:23

To be horrified at the backlash against Green Party candidate who said he wanted to ban halal (non stunned) slaughter?

Jonathan Bartley of the Green Party, was asked in an interview what he thought about halal slaughtering methods (where animals are often not stunned so are fully conscious when slaughtered). Quite reasonably, considering the party is meant to be pro animal welfare and that he is Vegan, he said personally he’d like to ban it.
There was a big outcry and calls for him to resign for Islamophobia. However he was asked about halal not kosher (which also requires animals not to be stunned prior to slaughter) and no doubt he would have decried any slaughter that requires animals to be slaughtered without stunning, whether it was kosher or halal.

This is a bit like campaigning against bull-fighting and being accused of racism against Spanish people.

Worst of all, when he was criticised, he back-tracked and explained that the Green Party supported kosher and halal slaughtering methods, so a bit of a 360 degree turnaround. Other Green Party apparatchiks then came aboard to grovel and apologise on his behalf.

I remember when the Green Party supported animal welfare and to find them going against recommendations from Compassion in World Farming and the RSPCA, who insist that stunning animals before slaughter takes away some of the pain from this unconscionable process, is very depressing.

Slaughterhouses are already so poorly regulated that to deny animals some relief by rendering them unconscious before they are killed is surely a terrible abomination. I do wish to respect all religions but I am disappointed that animal welfare is being so disrespected.

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Wauden · 01/12/2019 19:31

FreshFreesias, I totally agree with your post. It is common sense.

It is awful that the Green Party man had to back track, he was saying that for the sake of decency towards animals.
Stop all inhumane slaughter of animals!

FizzAfterSix · 11/12/2019 12:36

Lancashire Council has banned non-stunned meat.

`The Humanists UK group strongly backed the council’s move, pointing out that polling by the British Veterinary Association revealed that 64 per cent of vets believed that welfare at the time of slaughter, specifically a requirement for stunning, should be a priority'.

Good for the humanists!

kikisparks · 11/12/2019 14:09

An RSPCA approved slaughter method of male chicks is to grind them alive.

An RSPCA approved slaughter method of pregnant cows involves after the cow is dead cutting the fetus out and killing him or her by blunt force trauma.

I could go on and on. Yet most people happily pay for products involving these practices in ignorance.

I’m against halal slaughter, kosher slaughter, and all other types of slaughter.

mencken · 11/12/2019 14:38

I'm not against animal slaughter because I eat meat. Also trap mice. But I think that slaughter of anything should be as painless as possible.

uncomfortable truth - some religious practices have no place in what should be (but isn't...) a secular country. That includes non-stun slaughter, circumcision, enforced covering for women, intolerance of other beliefs, refusal of assisted dying and many others.

sorry, freedom of belief is fine but some practices are not.

religion should be one of those things that under-18s are kept away from. One day...

libdumps · 11/12/2019 14:43

Yanbu, it's horrific!

pelirocco123 · 11/12/2019 14:54

As if the non halal meat is humane anyway

FizzAfterSix · 18/01/2020 18:35

I met a Green Party activist this week who was a vivisectionist - that was interesting given that the GP used to want to abolish animal experiments!
I'm not sure what they stand for anymore.

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