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Help- found ecstasy in dd’s room

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Potatopots · 30/11/2019 08:49

At a loss on what to do. Dd went out last night and took my house key with her (she lost hers)- I’m heading out now and couldn’t find my key on the hook so checked her jacket pocket and found my key as well as a baggie containing 2 ecstasy pills. She’s still asleep but what do I do? Wake her up and confront her? Wait until she’s woken up and ask her about them? Leave them on her bedside table for her to see when she wakes up and see what she does before I ask her?

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notfun · 30/11/2019 20:01

Also there was no 'safe' way to take it on that night.

No reason for that one to have killed the child, none of the others died that night and excess water wasn't drunk etc.

The coroner said there is no way of knowing if the next pill will kill you.

Micah · 30/11/2019 20:01

MDMA per se is not dangerous in a small amount

Yes, it is.

Mdma causes increase in heart rate, blood pressure, temperature, other body systems.

Every so often the body gets in a loop where it can’t regulate and everything continues increasing, you get hyperpyrexic, lose the ability to lose water, and die.

It’s not dose dependent.

As for the myths of “contaminated batches”. Every case i have dealt with it’s nothing to do with the contaminant and absolutely down to the mdma. It is definitely not “safe” in it’s pure form.

changeforprivacy · 30/11/2019 20:03

I'm always surprised on these threads that so many people both condone and have taken drugs themselves.

The idea of drugs horrified me as a teen (early 90's) as much as the idea of my DC taking drugs does. Just no.

Fizzypoo · 30/11/2019 20:03

There's no way to know that riding a horse one day will kill you either. Horse riding and ecstasy have the same risk of death.

bluebluezoo · 30/11/2019 20:04

Lots posters dabbled with ecstasy included myself in the early 2000's they are here to tell the tale

Love this.

Like Leah Betts and the hundreds of others who have dies are going to be on here posting that they aren’t here to tell the tale.

Jesus.

Fizzypoo · 30/11/2019 20:06

I don't actually believe that you're a scientist @Micah. If you were you would surely be able to comprehend that a 9 on the chart for ecstasy compared to 72 for alcohol shows that actually ecstasy isn't that harmful.

TriangularRatbag · 30/11/2019 20:08

@Evilspiritgin
I’m sorry some of you don’t think that kids dying of drugs is anything to bother about ( no matter the drug), the amount dying is going up every year
I'd just take up StarClaws point: no one is saying this at all!

It doesn't much help your case to take up a binary and simplistic position that anyone who is not convinced that drugs will kill us all must be virtually an addicted drug dealer themselves! Drug use is quite a nuanced and complex phenomenon. That fact doesn't suit the Daily Mail narrative, but it's nonetheless true, and kids are able to see this for themselves. If parents refuse to engage with that reality then they're in danger of rendering their parenting of this issue obsolete.

Micah · 30/11/2019 20:09

There's no way to know that riding a horse one day will kill you either. Horse riding and ecstasy have the same risk of death

Totally. But there aren’t people insisting horse riding is completely safe if you have basic horse knowledge or know not to do certain things, or horse riding is completely safe if you don’t meet a car or the horse is perfectly well behaved.

It is people’s choice to horse ride, or take mdma. But to insist that deaths are from drinking too much water or contaminants, or not “doing it properly” is ignorant and misleading.

Bottom line is when you put that pill in your mouth there is a risk the mdma might kill you. However many precautions you take, or the purity of the drug, or the low dose, however much you think you can control it. You can’t.

ArabellaDoreenFig · 30/11/2019 20:09

Anyone here saying that drugs are fun and sociable needs to google county lines, hopefully it will make you realise how naive you are.

Fizzypoo · 30/11/2019 20:10

There is so much moral panic on this thread. Considering MN users are usually quite educated I'm actually finding it quite funny.

Not your OP, I understand why you'd be concerned, I'm laughing at the frothing of some posts!

Micah · 30/11/2019 20:11

I don't actually believe that you're a scientist @Micah. If you were you would surely be able to comprehend that a 9 on the chart for ecstasy compared to 72 for alcohol shows that actually ecstasy isn't that harmful

I’m just an intenet anonymous. You don’t have to believe anything.

But i don’t believe i said at any point mdma was less harmful than alcohol. It still kills people.

Just that people are naive if they think it is “safe” or “harmless fun”.

Fizzypoo · 30/11/2019 20:13

Bottom line:

You can put a helmet on to go horse riding and still die whilst doing it safely.

You can follow harm reduction advise and still die.

You could cross the road and die. However fact remains you are more likely, by a lot to die from alcohol rather than Es and it is not a gateway drug.

Fizzypoo · 30/11/2019 20:15

County lines are not a few pillars made in a lab in europe.

County lines are complex and have multi-faceted layers of harm.

TriangularRatbag · 30/11/2019 20:16

Hi there Arabella,

Anyone here saying that drugs are fun and sociable needs to google county lines, hopefully it will make you realise how naive you are.

I think they're fun and sociable. I'm also very well aware that drug use can be dangerous, and that county lines (I don't need to Google) are a horrible social ill.

bluebluezoo · 30/11/2019 20:19

You could cross the road and die. However fact remains you are more likely, by a lot to die from alcohol rather than Es and it is not a gateway drug

Is that because alcohol is more readily available and a higher % of the population drink?

Be interested in the stats if you have them. As it would go for/against the legalisation argument...

Fizzypoo · 30/11/2019 20:23

images.app.goo.gl/cVRfxWk85Nhaediu5 there you go blue

TriangularRatbag · 30/11/2019 20:25

Be interested in the stats if you have them.

This might be of interest - research by Prof David Nutt of Imperial and others into the relative harms of drug use (including alcohol, which comes out very badly indeed)

www.antoniocasella.eu/archila/NUTT_2007.pdf

luca123 · 30/11/2019 20:26

If you found them in her pocket it could be that she never even took any so give her chance to explain.

TriangularRatbag · 30/11/2019 20:30

Fizzy's chart comes from this research by Nutt:

www.ias.org.uk/uploads/pdf/News%20stories/dnutt-lancet-011110.pdf

ExhaustedGrinch · 30/11/2019 21:02

Not your OP, I understand why you'd be concerned, I'm laughing at the frothing of some posts! Yes, people sharing stories of their friends and loved ones dying of drugs brings me out in fits of laughter too! Hmm

Mightneedabitofhelp · 30/11/2019 21:09

Hi!
I'm a current 19 year old who has been around drugs a lot maybe I can help a little?
I would say like other posters the fear of death isn't a good one to lead on because a. It's what she's expecting and what she's been taught at school, it didn't work then so it won't work now b. She might have already taken it herself and has probably seen others take it and not die so the thought she might die now doesn't seem possible (though of course it is) c. Death just doesn't seem real as a teenager.
I would focus on things it can do but that you survive like issues with the police how it affects brain chemistry and other possible disabling affects. If you have a good relationship I would also bring up how you feel, disappointed, betrayed ect. One of the biggest thing that stopped me from taking party drugs is I didn't want to be that girl who takes drugs, I'd seen videos of people gerning, throwing up and just being twats on drugs, I didn't want that. Others I know who take drugs mostly stopped when it stopped being new and exciting, if they were generally happy people they decided that the drugs weren't worth the hangover or the price.
I wouldn't act too angry at her because that'll just make her not listen as she can rationalise that you did wrong by going through her stuff so she should be angry at you.
It might also be a good idea to have some kind of pact where she tells you if she's going to take it. Like let her know you don't want her too but if she does she should tell you. That way you can be there if it goes wrong and it'll just generally make her trust you a bit more.

Greysparkles · 30/11/2019 21:14

County lines are not a few pillars made in a lab in europe

Who do you think buys the pills in bulk and distributes them?? I didn't know there were special ethical drug dealers for the middle classes.

Fizzypoo · 30/11/2019 21:21

County lines are coke, crack and smack.

Mainly coke as that's where the money is.

Anyone can buy a pill press off of amazon for £20 and make them themselves in England or Europe.

Mixing county lines and a few pills is wrong information and nothing to do with middle class. Middle class drugs are ket and coke! Much more damaging than ecstasy. The cocaine drug trafficking and county lines does not do the same damage as selling a few pills from Germany.

Jinxed2 · 30/11/2019 21:53

People rolling their eyes at the Leah Betts comments..... I watched the video at school. It ensured the only drug I ever tried was the odd joint here and there. It terrified me.

ewwsweatyunderboob · 30/11/2019 21:58

@Jinxed2 if you mean me I was rolling my eyes because multiple people misread what I wrote about her and thought I was saying she was alive when obviously she isn’t. Even after I addressed it.

The video terrified me too and I remember our local policeman telling us ‘you will be offered drugs’ and me absolutely shitting myself worrying I wouldn’t be able to say no. I have been offered drugs but not till my 20s when I was already a parent and it wasn’t going to happen!