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MIL & DH. I think I’m going mad.

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Mamathebest · 25/11/2019 11:14

I’m hoping to get a bit of advice here. I have DS who is now approaching 20 months. In these 20 months MIL has not done much to bond with our son. She will casually drop in after a month or two and state how much “she misses her grandson and wants him alone” then disappear again. My parents have been incredibly helpful since DS was born. At one point my DH was working nights and we barely saw him. My family really did there best to support us and make sure I wasn’t cooped up alone with a baby. I’ve had quite poor health over the last year. I unfortunately have reoccurring tonsillitis. And I don’t mean once every few months. This is 2x a month. I am basically at the doctors or referred to the hospital for treatment every month. Ridiculous fever, pain, unable to even swallow my own saliva. It’s exhausting dealing with it and looking after a now toddler but I get on as best as I can with my support system. Occasionally if I have an infection and DH is not around that particular week I’ll stay with my mum and sis for a few days for some extra support. I’m incredibly thankful for this.

I have tried my best to be respectful to my in laws and facilitate a relationship with DS and MIL. She works full time and is quite busy and I try to be mindful of that. I regularly text her “if you have any free time this week and would like to see GS. Let me know what works for you and I’ll bring him
To you or feel free to come Over”. Sometimes this is replies with a simple “ok” and no further contact is made. Sometimes she comes Over. As there’s no regular contact DS sees MIL as a stranger. He obviously is closer to my family as they tend to drop in more often or invite us around. This has always caused a bit of jealousy and bitchy comments from in laws and husband.

Things came to a head last weekend and as a result me and DH are no longer talking. MIL came around last week and stated “I want some alone time with DS this Friday. So I’ll take him”. My DH who is desperate for DS to become closer to his family, immediately said yes without even a conversation with me. DS is going through a horrible separation anxiety phase. I could occasionally leave him for a bit with DH and my sister. Now he’s screaming the whole time
And with my last attempt I was told to immediately come back! I can see this is perfectly normal
At this stage so I’m trying my best to ride it out and if i have to leave him. I would rather Leave DS in environments and with people who he is familiar with. My mum has babysat a couple of time’s and its always been at our home. She finds he tends to deal with separation a bit easier there plus it’s childproofed.

I spoke to my DH about MILs request. We have no plans to go out on Friday and currently very broke so can’t afford to. So this is all for the benefit of MIL. I said to my DH I’m quite concerned leaving DS with MIL. She shows no interest in his routines and is absolutely clueless when it comes to him. Surely it would make more sense for her to see him more often first, become more familiar with each other? And I am also confused by this whole “I can only bond if I get alone time with your son and nothing else will do??”. Maybe it’s cultural differences but where I am from no one gets to demand alone time with anyone’s kids. If parents ask that’s a separate matter. My own parents who adore DS would never and respect that. I was willing to put aside my instincts and go along with it if MIL could have DS in our home as is normal tradition. My DH simply grunted and said “yeah I’m sure it will be fine”.

Friday comes and he texts me saying that we can drop DS over to his mums. Obviously I’m a bit confused as this wasn’t the plan. We go back and forth and in the end the night is cancelled. My DH starts swearing at me and says “I see you for what you are now” wtf?!

It’s been three days and he has refused to talk to
me. I believe the last thing he said to me was “fuck off”. I have spoke to his mum, apologised for the miscommunication and explained
My feelings as gently as I could. I offered for us all to spend time together (me, MIL & DS) the next day. MIL said she was busy. I said that’s completely fine would any other day work? So we agreed on Sunday. I brought DS over, MIL barely spoke to me and made some passive aggressive comments. I didn’t reply, I just kept in mind I’m doing this for my DS. At one point during the visit DS wondered over to touch a small plastic ornament she had on display. He literally brushed his hands on it and she screamed at him. DS of course was crying and scared. He’s a toddler FFs, I mean I am all for setting clear boundaries but that seemed OTT. I feel like I’m being pointed out to be some kind of evil woman by DH and MIL. Honestly at a loss as to what to do.

OP posts:
Mamathebest · 25/11/2019 11:14

Also Mil lives about 10-15 minutes away from
us.

OP posts:
Passthecherrycoke · 25/11/2019 11:18

I tend to stay out of things like this and let my H deal with it. Doesn’t your DH take his son over to see her? Could he start doing that?
It sounds like you’ve made loads of effort and been lovely but also a bit like DS is “yours” to hand over, if you know what I mean? Whereas I’d expect your DH to be taking care of this part of the family relationship

hungrywalrus · 25/11/2019 11:25

This sounds more like a control/image thing than a wish to get to know your son better. She wants to play the doting grandmother without having done anything to deserve that. Maybe if you let her have him and make yourself unavailable so that your husband has to deal with the fallout if there’s a problem and he won’t settle. Obviously not it you are afraid for his safety.

Your DH is a whole other problem. It’s not ok how he’s talking to you.

FizzyGreenWater · 25/11/2019 11:30

I would not stand for this bullshit from your DH.

If he's too childish to speak to you, email or text.

'This stops right now. The reason I don't want DS with MIL alone for the day is because HE DOESN'T BLOODY KNOW HER FROM ADAM! So as you know full well, the best way to make sure that he has an absolutely terrible time and probably make sure he bursts into tears at the very sight of her for the next year would be to merrily drop him off for the day and leave him to scream himself into a panic while she probably goes mad at him if he so much as touches a plastic ornament, which is what she did last time she saw him.

I HAVE TRIED MY BEST HERE. I want her to have a good relationship with him. I've texted til I'm blue in the face asking if she wants to meet/drop in so that she can spend time with him and get to know him so he starts to like her and feel secure with her. She won't. She doesn't want to bother. Always excuses. Then FLIP and it's 'I want him on his own now'. No. DS comes first. I am NOT leaving him with her when he hardly knows her. And like I said above, talk about the best way to make sure he loses trust in her completely!

I cannot believe how childishly you have reacted to this. Just because it's your mother. You are a father now. DS needs to come first, end of. If you are so blinded by the fact that someone has dared to upset your mother that you can't see that I, YOUR WIFE, am actually putting our child's needs first then you are shaping up to be a poor father. Wake up. Step up. This is YOUR mother, explain to her exactly what I have said above and start putting DS first.

If this silent treatment carries on I will be leaving. If we cannot communicate properly and parent effectively then we will not go the distance.

Look through the history of my communications with your mother over this and get some bloody perspective. And PUT YOUR SON FIRST.'

averythinline · 25/11/2019 11:32

you need to sort your dh out first....not speaking is a crap way of sortingstuff out... and a poor model for your DS - personally i would tell him to fuck off back to his mums.....if he doesnt realise he has is own family now... and you are an equal adult to him...

however you do have to accept he has equal say so if he does want to take ds to his mums its up to him...

it is not your job to facilitate mil relationship...

although you say money is tight are you going back to work? it maybe the pressure of just one wage is making everyone even more stressed

Quartz2208 · 25/11/2019 11:35

You have a massive DH problem here OP he is the one talking to your MIL and making arrangements

How is he supporting you at the moment

Mamathebest · 25/11/2019 11:38

For whatever reason, as I am a SAHM, DH feels like it’s my responsibility to make visits and contact. I genuinely believe he doesn’t want to spend his weekends at MILs house with DS. As he is “too tired”. He got angry with me suggesting it recently during that talk.

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Winterdaysarehere · 25/11/2019 11:38

Your dh just doesn't want to admit mil is a rubbish dgm...
Tell him to take him over. See how long he is there...

Nanny0gg · 25/11/2019 11:40

Copy and paste @FizzyGreenWater text right now and send it to your useless mummy's boy of a husband.

She's nailed it.

frazzledasarock · 25/11/2019 11:42

If you’d have dropped your son to hers she’d have been calling you to pick him up within five minutes.

I reckon she knew you’d say no. So she comes out looking the wounded doting granny and you’re the evil witch. And your spineless mummy’s boy H believes this.

Suggest to your H to take your DS to his mums for tea or something. And he can observe his mother screaming at your DS. If he’s any kind of father he’ll not agree to handing over your baby to her for alone time again.

CoraPirbright · 25/11/2019 11:45

Does your dh know just how hard you have tried to include his mother? Do you still have a list of the texts etc? I would be printing them out and giving them to him to make it crystal clear just how much you have tried! And you have been rebuffed again and again.

Sounds to me like she just wants to have your ds for show. Fuck that!

AnneLovesGilbert · 25/11/2019 11:50

Bloody hell FizzyGreenWater Star

OP, what Fizzy said.

AnneLovesGilbert · 25/11/2019 11:51

I genuinely believe he doesn’t want to spend his weekends at MILs house with DS.

Then he has no right at all to make you see her.

onalongsabbatical · 25/11/2019 11:52

Send Fizzy's text. Tell it like it is. Basically, you're the only one putting DS first. Pair of self-centred idiots at best. Not surprised you're tearing your hair out over this OP.

onalongsabbatical · 25/11/2019 11:54

Fizzy's the oracle, by the way, never seen her call it wrong or give bad advice.

MildDrPepperAddiction · 25/11/2019 11:55

FizzyGreenWater is right. Email him her message if he won't speak.

Mamathebest · 25/11/2019 11:57

Fizzygreen, you said exactly how I feel to a T! I wish I had it in me to be so honest with DH. I feel like I’m being punished for not going along with this. He said to me the other night that “I don’t know how I feel about you because of this and I am unsure as to whether we can have another child”

This hurt me deeply, to think that he’s feelings towards us as his family is somehow dependent on how his mum feels. I said that I struggle to understand his mother’s actions and her absence in DS life. He replies that “ we aren’t up in each other’s arses like your family”. I would have loved for her to be the doting grandma and take a genuine interest in our lives but that’s not been the case. Me and DH are of the same race but different ethnic groups. I speak a second language. DS has been a bit slow with his speech development but has lately picked up a few phrases from both languages. I’ve been really happy with this. I mix a bit of English and my mother tongue when I’m speaking to DS. His mum
rolls her eyes at this and then makes frequent comments that “I guess DS is insert my ethnic group I.e not one of us.

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Mamathebest · 25/11/2019 12:01

I’m really struggling at the moment with the coldness and no one to speak to. I am at home all day with DS. He will come in from work. Spend a small time playing with DS and then retreat to the bedroom. Every time I try to start a convo he will walk away or completely ignore me. Would I be a bitch to go stay at my sisters for a few days? This is bloody depressing.

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frazzledasarock · 25/11/2019 12:02

So your H can’t stand his mum. Doesn’t want to spend time in her company so is throwing you under the bus to make himself look good.

I’d not want any more dc with him either. I’d not want him.

IdleBet · 25/11/2019 12:02

Don't have another child with this gobshite!

NoSquirrels · 25/11/2019 12:03

Fuck me, OP. Is your DH always such a wanker?

My DH starts swearing at me and says “I see you for what you are now” wtf?!

It’s been three days and he has refused to talk to
me. I believe the last thing he said to me was “fuck off”

That is fucking unbelievable.

Is he at all hands-on with his DS?

I would be questioning my whole relationship over this. But I would NOT give in to bullying - it's not in your son's best interests.

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CoolcoolcoolcoolcoolNoDoubt · 25/11/2019 12:03

This hurt me deeply, to think that he’s feelings towards us as his family is somehow dependent on how his mum feels.

I'm not surprised this hurts you - it shouldn't be that way. And to claim you and your family are up each others arses is so immature! WTF.

frazzledasarock · 25/11/2019 12:03

Go and stay at your sisters for as long as you can. Don’t communicate with him at all.

See how he likes it.

MashedSpud · 25/11/2019 12:03

A man who doesn’t speak to you for three days isn’t worth your time.

AnneLovesGilbert · 25/11/2019 12:04

Go to your sister. He’s behaving revoltingly and it’s creating an unhealthy atmosphere for you and your son.

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