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How to respond to this!?

234 replies

InnisandGunn · 22/11/2019 21:56

Really good friend, one of my best friends sent me this this evening.

Back story is I have an 18 monrh DS, DSS and a partner who works away a lot. We have DSS every other weekend and up until recently I've been working 26 hours a week. Life is crazy, and I'm barely seeing friends who live down the road. This friend lives down south, with partner, no kids, both high flying jobs, family up this way but they moved further afield about a year ago. Friend comes up regularly but is quite often busy with family stuff and fairy inflexible in times she can meet. Not a problem, if we can't meet we can't meet. Life's crazy for everyone.

My problem is I want to see this friend so badly, but it's always massively inconvenient but a few times I've said yes, then had to pull out when I've realised just how much it's going to take to get there. This friend doesn't drive so I'm having to pick her up from places and drop her back sometimes up to half an hour away. Her parents place is an hour away. I work every afternoon from 12pm.

So this weekend we arranged to meet and I've had to pull out. DP has come back from a works trip that happens every year and involves early starts and stupidly late starts. I explained I was concerned it wasn't going to work but after her ignoring my messages I said I'd have to bring DS along (she doesn't seem to like me bringing DS when we meet, which is understandable). Well, I've never seen him so tired. He's been looking after drunks the last few nights and he's come in and collapsed on the sofa. We also have DSS this weekend who is 2 hours away. We leave at 7:30 to pick him up. We're concerned DSS isn't having as much fun with us recently due to being so tired and finances being tight as well as illness, timings and an array of other stuff. We're trying to pull our fingers our our arses and get back to doing what we used to so we said this weekend we'd have lots of fun.

DP is so tired I've said I'll take DS over to pick up DSS so he can have a lie in and we can get back and both be ready to have a fun filled weekend all together. I've explained this to my friend and this is the response I got.

Last time she refers to she said she told me she was there for two weeks but I honestly don't remember because when it was mentioned in passing later I was genuinely gutted. I've also offered to meet for a few drinks tomorrow night once the boys are in bed as a compromise.

I get it's frustrating and I do feel bad. But this is my best friend of 11 years. We talk regularly via SM. She's helped me through some tough times and I've listened and offered advice through hers. I love this person to bits. When I read her message I burst into tears and now I'm feeling angry.

I get it's shitty, but it came down to family or friend and family always comes first. Surely they should? I feel caught between a rock and a hard place. I feel stretched so thin and someone who's supposed to understand has dropped me, just like that. 3 months before the wedding, after discussing colours of dresses only a few days or so ago, despite her saying she's been feeling this way for a few weeks. I had other friends I wanted to ask but decided to just keep it to my absolute closest friends. Invites went out yesterday. I could have invited another close friend to the ceremony, but I can't now.

What's the point in trying to explain how I constantly feel like I'm drowning. I feel like I don't do well at work, the house is a mess, I don't see my friends, or give them enough attention when messaging and trying to stop my toddler from killing himself for the 199th time this morning. She won't understand, and it's futile trying to get her to.

So here's the message.

Hi lass, To be honest, this whole pattern of friendship isn't doing me any favours, this is the third time I've made plans to see you this year and you have bailed. I always have to have a back up plan and somewhere to stay that doesn't rely on you. I understand that you are busy with your family, but I also have a new family and my parents and in laws and friends that I have to divide my time between and I've been trying to make room for you but this doesn't feel like it's being reciprocated. I was at my parents place for 2 weeks and you didn't make time to see me then, when you could have had your pick of time. Few several weeks now I've been feeling uneasy about being your bridesmaid as although we have been good friends in the past, I do feel that that time has gone and I don't want you to feel resentment that I am in your wedding photos or part of your day when I'm no longer a part of your life. All things come to an end and I think we've reached ours. I wish you all the happiness in the world and that you have the happiest of weddings :)

If you got this far, thanks. So I guess AIBU, and how on earth should I reply?! Getting past this isn't going to happen is it?

OP posts:
Bluntness100 · 23/11/2019 06:34

I'm a little confused by some of your responses op. You basically are saying you bailed because of mental health issues. In your op though you said you bailed because your husband was knackered so you decided to look after the kids and prepare for a fun packed weekend.

It does sound like you're trying to justify why you treated her so badly, and you don't need to do that, sometimes you just need to accept that maybe you didn't behave well, you did decide to kick her into the long grass for a spurious reason and it hurt her.

Alwayshangryhangry · 23/11/2019 06:40

Why not send a gift? A montage of pics of you both and a little message "to be continued..." everyone has an element of hectic in their life but no one wants to feel unimportant.

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 23/11/2019 06:41

I think the friend is sick of being bailed on and she's telling you so. Her message is kind but honest.

I would send her a long, thought out apology that is not about you and your trials but how much you value her as a friend and how sorry you are that you have let her down. Tell her you are struggling to maintain any friendships, not just the one with her, and that you make arrangements to see her that you can't fulfil precisely because hers means so much to you.

Acknowledge that bailing on her isn't acceptable but that if she can live with keeping in contact by phone for a bit until you can cope a bit better you would love to remain friends. But if that doesn't work for her, understood.

LotteLupin · 23/11/2019 06:54

Agree with LittleDragonMama that it would be great to think about how to set realistic boundaries with others in the future. Then everyone knows where they are. I feel she did pressurise and you tried to respond, but ultimately couldn't. **

DrPimplePopper · 23/11/2019 06:56

Wow some replies here are so harsh OP. I've been in a similar place, kids didn't sleep, husband on the edge with MH issues. You feel torn in a million directions whilst still wanting to keep other relationships going. Friendships and plans do something have to take a hit.

My best friend who has no kids and loves clubbing lives about 2 hours from me but would always adapt. I cancelled a fair few times when I was so tired from being up every hour with a refluxy or colicky baby and physically couldn't drive, and cancelled nights out when I couldn't safely leave DH with the kids. And it probably really annoyed them but they understood, or attempted to. They met me in the middle very often so I didn't need to drive the full way, or they drove to my house for a few hours then home again. We changed our meets from drinking club/bar focused to kid friendly pubs with play areas or free museums or whatever as the babies grew up. We were in each other's bridal parties despite cancelled plans. At 3 months before the date, neither of us would have dreamed of pulling out of the wedding.

I appreciate for your friend it just wasn't working for her, but honestly I think cancelled plans happen (3 in a row or not doesn't really matter), life gets in the way, and friends stick by you. If she knows what's been going on for you, I think she's been a pretty crappy friend too. She has been honest though and maybe you can't give each other what you both need right now, but don't shoulder all the blame OP. I'm glad to see other posters encouraging you in getting support, my DH took some anti anxiety meds which were different to how his antidepressants made him feel so hopefully you can find the right balance.

adaline · 23/11/2019 06:58

You seem to have several different reasons why you cancelled on her.

One minute you say it's mental health related, the next it's because the journey is too much, then it's because your partner is too tired. Which is it?

The first excuse is understandable and I would be sympathetic. The second - if the journey is too much, why make the plans in the first place? You're just setting yourself up to fail. The third? Frankly if someone cancelled on me because their husband was tired I'd be sorely tempted to tell them to fuck off! Especially if you'd then gone on to arrange a nice family weekend together anyway.

Your friend is upset and hurt and rightfully so. She's said her piece, you've apologised. Just leave it now. It's done.

I hope your mental health improves soon Thanks

Considermesometimes · 23/11/2019 06:58

I would apologise too, I know just how you feel about not having time/feeling stretched to breaking point. You need to tell her that you care about her, and that you are sorry you can not be a good friend to her at the moment. Explain how hard it is, and that it is not a case of not wanting to be there for her, it is impossible for the moment. You respect her decision of course, but you hope at some point in the future you will come back together again when life is not so hard.

I don't blame her for being sick and tired of you cancelling her, I don't blame you for having to cancel. It is just life.

When making arrangements consider whether you can actually get there, will you have the energy when it comes to it. I would be looking at making life much more manageable, cut back on all commitments until you are in a better place.

Stuffedcrust55 · 23/11/2019 07:02

It sounds like the focus should be in trying to get your child to sleep through the night or making sure dad does some of the night waking. If you had a full ights sleep things would seem more doable. Sleep deprivation makes your mind do very odd things.

You also seem to prioritise DP being exhausted etc but you are too. Dont take on his problems and sacrifice your mental health for him. If he needs an hour off make sure you get one too. He may be working longer hours than you but he doesn't have your mental load to deal with.

KitKat1985 · 23/11/2019 07:04

Whereas I can understand OP how life can get in the way sometimes of friendships, as I'm a full-time working Mum of two young kids aged 5&3 (the eldest of which has autism), I do think you have to accept if you regularly flake out of meet-ups and never really make time for them, it really shouts the fact that you don't view that friendship as a priority in your life right now. And that means your friends may well end up re-assessing your relationship.

I actually did the opposite about a year ago and stopped making the effort to make plans with a couple of old friends who always used to flake out of plans. I accept their life is busy, but so is mine, and I just figure if I value the friendship enough to want to make the effort, but they don't, it's not really much of a friendship.

PurpleFlower1983 · 23/11/2019 07:11

I think she’s right too, she’s been really nice about it but good friends do somehow make time for each other when they really want to. It sounds like, as she said, the friendship has just run its course and you need to move on like she has.

Bluntness100 · 23/11/2019 07:14

I'm a full-time working Mum of two young kids aged 5&3

The op no longer works and is now a sahm with one child.

saraclara · 23/11/2019 07:15

Frankly if someone cancelled on me because their husband was tired I'd be sorely tempted to tell them to fuck off! Especially if you'd then gone on to arrange a nice family weekend together anyway.

Yep. The basis of your excuse was that you couldn't meet her because you had to do something that allowed you to have a nice weekend with people other than her. Double whammy of "you're not as important"

Also people have been making huge assumptions that as she doesn't have kids her life can't possibly be as busy or stressful. They actually don't know a thing about her. She might have all sorts of other commitments and stresses that she tried to put aside to meet the OP.

Dontdisturbmenow · 23/11/2019 07:15

You are undervaluing the investment that comes with keeping a friendship alive and healthy. Friends are important, but you need to look after the friendship.

You say your life is busy but frankly, it doesn't sound any busier than the life of most of my friends' and mine but we make the effort. You've bailed on her twice, and you are now putting your OH tiredness above her. He has a responsibility to you SS and the fact that he is tired shouldn't Trump your friendship, at least not when you've let her down twice before. You should have told that in other circumstances, you would have rescheduled to help him but not this time and he should have understood.

It's not too late though. Call her, apologised profusedly, tell her that you are very upset to lose her friendship, that she is right and that her message made you opened your eyes. Ask her for another chance to make it up and open up about it all and don't cancel the next time in any circumstances.

Elodie2019 · 23/11/2019 07:17

Just a thought...

You say you are active on social media and your friend is too.

Does she regularly see updates/pictures of you on day trips/nights out etc ?

Duggeeismysaviour · 23/11/2019 07:17

Some people have a tendency to be in a mindset of "my life is so difficult /hectic" and cannot get out of that. They are constantly mentally listing all the things they have going on, instead of just getting on with them. It really is, in most cases, a mental attitude.

I'm not saying you're not busy and snowed under, but your mindset seems to be quite victim like, to the point where you feel justified in cancelling things because deep down at least some of the times, you simply can't be bothered.

The whole parent/step parent, travelling by car etc etc thing is like A mantra on repeat that protects you from occasionally putting a friendship first.

Don't make plans at all if you feel this busy

If your friend had a baby, you'd definitely never see each other, so maybe it was best to nip this in the bud now!!

I know it must be upsetting, and I'm sorry you feel bad

Theendofmyrope · 23/11/2019 07:19

I can understand that must have strung. But I have a friend like you who has constantly bailed over the years with various spurious excuses so I have stepped back. Some friendships do run their course and when it becomes a long train of let downs and disappointments it's time to question the point of the f'ship IMO

Elodie2019 · 23/11/2019 07:27

DP is so tired I've said I'll take DS over to pick up DSS so he can have a lie in and we can get back and both be ready to have a fun filled weekend all together. I've explained this to my friend and this is the response I got.

That is it!!

You told your friend that both you & your DP are basically suffering from exhaustion.

You dumped your arrangement with her and went on to plan a 'fun filled weekend' with your family.

Did you post the pics of you & your exhausted DP having a fun filled day on social media?

Your friend thinks you are an arse.

TryingToBeBold · 23/11/2019 07:36

Honestly?
As someone who has the flakiest friends going.. if you left it in my court when YOU are the one that bails.. I'd be fuming. Why should I ever organize anything ever again. So you can bail again?!

I suggest you give it a few days. And you call. And you pull your finger out and go round there. And make some damn effort.

TryingToBeBold · 23/11/2019 07:38

@Elodie2019

Totally agree. If you have expressed fun filled weekend.. for a 10 year old? That's swimming,parks, local theme parks, seeing family etc etc.
Might not be fun for you. But makes for a busy weekend.
For someone that is too busy to see their friend.
Someone who is collapsing with exhaustion.

But a busy weekend ahead. That was optional

shoebedobedobedobedoo · 23/11/2019 07:43

Friends are for seasons. One of my closest friends at the moment is a school friend. We were extremely close through our 20s barely spoke in our 30s and are in each other’s pockets and almost next door again in our 40s. We could both have made dramas out of various things we’ve done or not done to each other, but we just let time pass instead.

Countryescape · 23/11/2019 07:47

You aren’t that busy. You’ve got a pretty standard life as far as I can see it.Sort out your mental health and your drippy husband and maybe you’ll find things easier.

eddielizzard · 23/11/2019 07:52

You are really struggling and not in a good place. Your friend might have her problems too, you never know. She might have taken the decision not to tell you because you're already dealing with too much. I have been the friend in this scenario, except my ex-friend treated me a lot worse than you have. So I think you need some time to deal with all of this, and you have your wedding coming up which is another stressful thing to worry about. And when the dust has settled, contact your friend again and tell her you miss her.

LL83 · 23/11/2019 07:54

I get it's shitty, but it came down to family or friend and family always comes first. Surely they should? I feel caught between a rock and a hard place. I feel stretched so thin and someone who's supposed to understand has dropped me

Family dont always come first. Once you have cancelled on someone once they become the priority next time, unless someone is in hospital the friend is the priority after first cancellation.

Cancelling 3 times would really hurt. I can understand why friend has to distance herself from you.

greeneyedlulu · 23/11/2019 07:54

She has no kids but expects you to drive all over to pick her up and drop her off with your kids in tow? Life is hectic sometimes and that can't be helped so I see your point. Also if she was at her folks for 2 weeks why did she not ask you to meet up or contact you to say I'm here now and I can pop over etc?
It is really crap when a friendship ends but doesn't sound like you can do much about it now. Good luck with the wedding

TheCatInAHat · 23/11/2019 07:55

I agree you’ve got less on than the average mum of two kids but for some reason feel the strain of life more. This isn’t an issue in and of itself but because you’re letting your friend down repeatedly she’s decided to move on with life without you- and she’s completely entitled to do this.

The message she sent was fair and considerate in that she fully explained her reasons and wished you well. She might feel hurt but she’s behaved well in this and sounds like a decent and genuine person. I think accepting the friendship has run its course is the best approach here. Wish her well and maybe learn from it so you don’t over-commit and let people down in the future Flowers though as I’m sure it’s been a bit upsetting