Parking AIBU *with Diagram*

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Please excuse the KS2 diagram as I've used an online version on paint - as you can tell from the wheels of the cars it's not to scale.

NDN keeps asking us to move the second car on the shared driveway. Apparently it's blocking her access to her driveway as it's a struggle to get past/see when she's turning in. The first time I thought she meant that I had parked too far over and now we park on the pavement near the garden. 7am this morning we get another knock asking us to not park at the end of the drive way as it will be our fault if they scratch our car. Apparently especially during rush hour it's difficult to get in (it's not overly) and that's why they whip around. We've lived here for donkeys years and only just moved back (was rented out when they moved in), we've never had an issue with other neighbours/nobody has ever complained of struggling to get in.

I thought they were very unreasonable but a family member agreed that maybe they had a point (but she is a very nervous driver).

*named change as I think this could be very outing.

I also should have put an apostrophe in partners as I only have one partner before anyone thinks I lead an exciting life.

No that's ridiculous, you have the right to park on your side of the driveway.

I think it looks fine.

Could you maybe move your OH's car down a bit more so it's closer to yours and there's a gap at the end of the drive so she could see the road better?

I think your next door neighbor is unreasonable.

I don't see her problem either.

It's a tandem drive designed for two cars, as long as you are parking as far over as you can she's BU. I'd probably try to get your two cars as far down the drive as possible (away from the road) so as not to hinder her view but otherwise YANBU

Your NDN is being unreasonable. If they are a capable driver then they should have no problem at all with the way your visitors have parked. If they can't reverse past their car then they shouldn't be driving.

I would hate pulling in too but I wouldn't expect my neighbours to rearrange their cars to accommodate my parking anxieties! One of my neighbours has a huge range rover they park on the pavement neae my drive and it makes it hard to see out but I'd never actually ask them to move it.

I don’t think she has much right in making you do anything? It looks like a normal drive/parking situation to me! I would understand it if was a big van blocking the view. Also if she hits your car then it will be her fault. It sounds like she needs some driving lessons tbh

Well if they can’t get past the car nearest the road they must find junctions a fucking nightmare.
YANBU

I know you said it’s not to scale, but could the guest car park as close to your car as possible, would that leave the entry clear?

The diagram shows a significant gap, I’d do that to keep relations pleasant.

I can't see what her problem is. Unless the scale of your diagram is misleading ?

She is being ridiculous - but might be a nervous driver. You could offer to take both the back spaces and she could park higher up if you were OK with that and she liked the idea?

Tell next door neighbour that it's your drive and that it's for two cars and if she doesn't feel confident parking then she should park on the road. Say your cars have to be parked on the drive as that is part of your car insurance terms. Do not agree as she will expect you to continue this. Explain that if she hits the car she will have to pay as they are legally parked on your land. She's bonkers. Her lack of parking ability is not your problem.

You say it is a shared driveway, can you put up a fence and then you can park anywhere you like on your driveway with no fear of NDN damaging your car.

I also wouldn't agree to start parking one car on her side as her (as someone else advised) could end in all sorts of issues, wanting to continue it, sets a president, when she has a second guest you could be blocked in etc.

7am this morning we get another knock asking us to not park at the end of the drive way as it will be our fault if they scratch our car.

I'm no expert but I don't think an insurance company would agree with her.

I think YANBU to park your cars on your drive. It would be considerate to park further up/over on your side to maximise the neighbour's visibility/manoeuvrability, but it's not your fault she's a bad nervous driver.

Many thanks for the diagram; it is a thing of beauty.

Yes a fence would be the best idea. Check your freehold to check you are allowed but it's rare that it's written in that you can't.

Not sure what she expects you to do. Plenty of houses have 2 cars and would park as you and your (many) partners do.

And no it won't be your fault if she scratches it.

She's being unreasonable. I would try to park back from the road as much as I could but that's it.

It's impossible to tell from the diagram who is being unreasonable as we can't tell the scale (understandably!)

Is it one single drive or two separate ones?

I'd ignore the door next time she knocks. Your drive is obviously intended to be multi vehicle. She is being unreasonable.

Does she ever have any guests parked behind her car?

Is there any room for your 2nd car not to be at the mouth of the entryway?

You could offer to take both the back spaces and she could park higher up if you were OK with that and she liked the idea.

How would that help? It would mean that NDN would potentially be blocking OP and her DP in so they’d have to get her to move so they could get out.

Sounds to me like NDN needs to learn to drive!

I'm not sure if this puts a spanner in the works as something we've always done but if we want to get passed the second car we go on NDN driveway to get around it - hence the gap.

We can fit three cars comfortably on the drive way but as a general rule that's too much agro if you're the first car on the driveway.

There's always a metre or so between the second car and the pavement as it's a fairly busy pavement. My theory is that it's the same as a T junction.