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To support the Duke of York

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LadyLanka · 16/11/2019 21:42

Just that.
Although he is being asked the wrong questions.

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BertrandRussell · 17/11/2019 15:22

“Toad of Toad Hall” is brilliant. But to be fair “It’s not the first time he’s got into trouble with his Range Rover- in 2013 he got a parking ticket” is a bit of a stretch, even for the Daily Mail!

Moomin8 · 17/11/2019 15:24

YABU. When will people stop trying to cover up for and makes excuses for these depraved parasites?

This Virginia Roberts business has been common knowledge for at least 10 years. I'm willing to bet that this is the tip of the tip of the iceberg.

And he's actually trying to say that photo was photo shopped. He's an absolute disgrace.

doritosdip · 17/11/2019 15:27

Bill Clinton was the VIP most associated with Epstein back then. He's probably relieved that PA is in the spotlight instead.

InsideOfEmptiness · 17/11/2019 15:34

I would have thought if you were being forced into prostitution against your will you would be miserable, inane to sleep properly, bad skin from stress, dead eyes. That girl looks the absolute picture of heath and happiness

I don't think you know what 'inane' means. But if you'd like to see an example, I encourage you to re-read your own posts.

doritosdip · 17/11/2019 15:36

The pic is not particularly high resolution so how can you tell about her skin? She's a teenager so could have had breakouts anyway.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/11/2019 15:38

Thanks very much, @flowerpowerr; I'd definitely not seen that before

Fascinating to see Andrew in motion in his surprising new role as "doorman" ...

Moomin8 · 17/11/2019 15:39

Bill Clinton was the VIP most associated with Epstein back then. He's probably relieved that PA is in the spotlight instead.

Couldn't agree more. Another bare faced liar 'I did not have sexual relations with that woman'

Angie6868 · 17/11/2019 15:44

His reaction to Epstein's crimes is deeply disturbing. A normal reaction would be to be appalled and immediately cease all contact. Not to go and visit them to say you're stopping contact and then stay with them for several days. He's a disgrace. A revolting human being.

tinytemper66 · 17/11/2019 15:46

OP is silent now I see!

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 17/11/2019 15:49

I would have thought if you were being forced into prostitution against your will you would be miserable, inane to sleep properly, bad skin from stress, dead eyes. That girl looks the absolute picture of heath and happiness

I sincerely hope this poster never becomes a social worker: 'Oh yes, I visited the children and asked them how they were whilst standing next to their abusive parents and they smiled and looked happy. They said mummy and daddy play games with them and are the best parents ever, plus no outward bruises in obvious places you could see, so obviously they're fine. See, they're smiling in the photo.'

I mean really.

mbosnz · 17/11/2019 15:49

Obviously people like PA are going to require 'high end' girls - that are clean, healthy, and apparently willing and happy.

There's all sorts of ways to ensure apparently willing compliance. There's drug and alcohol addiction. There's beating or raping them after the event, when it won't matter if the bruises show, bones are broken, or there's blood. Especially if you get a doctor who is a willing accomplice - easily done if you've got money and access to black market goods. There's having beaten and raped them before the event so they know what will happen if they don't comply. There's making sure they know that every move of theirs is being monitored, every word, there's no hope of escape - and where would you escape to? People with this much money, these many contacts? Who do you trust? There's threatening the people they love. And themselves. And knowing they actually have the money, the power and the contacts, to make those nightmares come true.

Raspberrytruffle · 17/11/2019 15:49

Yabu what a disgusting creature he is! I really feel for all of those girls traffic and abused, he firstly denied the picture of him standing next to his victim then when the picture was proven legit he claimed he couldn't remember it, notice how every time he answered a question he closed his eyes? I'm sick of people getting away with their crimes because they have money. All of those poor young girls taken lied to and used as sex slaves, treat like bags of meat, it could of been any of our daughter or family.

InsideOfEmptiness · 17/11/2019 15:50

Exactly, CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook. That post utterly disgusted me.

Raspberrytruffle · 17/11/2019 15:51

Plus can we all remember how mentally strong we were at 15/17? If an adult threatened us or played with our minds it would be terrifying!

Medievalist · 17/11/2019 15:52

From the beginning, he maintained that he Epstein weren't proper friends, he just knew him via Ghislane. So why did he feel the need to meet Epstein face to face to tell him that they couldn't be friends anymore when they weren't actually that close in the first place?

^^ This.

And at that point I think he hadn't been in contact with him for 4 years. So effectively he flew to the States to stay with someone who wasn't a proper friend and whom he hadn't spoken to in 4 years in order to tell him he wasn't going to be his friend any more?!!! Beggars belief.

EntropyRising · 17/11/2019 15:56

Travelling to, and staying with Epstein for four days to 'break up' obviously indicates the strength of the relationship and his esteem for him.

Irritating as hell that he might presume to think anyone has bought any part of his explanation .

EntropyRising · 17/11/2019 15:57

And someone mentioned him answering the door at Epstein's house. A show of extreme familiarity.

Roussette · 17/11/2019 15:57

@Puzzledandpissedoff Here it is. Sorry it's Daily Mail. 1min33seconds of footage. Epstein in white anorak and the girl didn't run back out, apologies. I watch it a few times when it first came out but had forgotten. The girl looks even younger than I recollected though.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7367511/Prince-Andrew-pictured-inside-paedophile-Jeffrey-Epsteins-63million-mansion-depravity.html

Gin96 · 17/11/2019 15:58

What upsets me is we pay through our taxes for this disgusting man. How arrogant of him to go on TV and say the reason he was staying with Eipstein I was doing the honourable thing:

Andrew: It was a convenient place to stay. I mean I’ve gone through this in my mind so many times. At the end of the day, with a benefit of all the hindsight that one can have, it was definitely the wrong thing to do. But at the time I felt it was the honourable and right thing to do and I admit fully that my judgment was probably coloured by my tendency to be too honourable but that’s just the way it is.

00100001 · 17/11/2019 16:00

"Epstein was guilty as charged, surely his suicide proves this?"

he was killed. no suicide.

doritosdip · 17/11/2019 16:02

The girl in that Mail video is so young Sad

Gin96 · 17/11/2019 16:02

He’s going to look mighty foolish if other photos come to light of say Prince Andrew in said night club that night. There must be more witnesses and evidence that might surface at anytime. He took a huge risk doing that interview.

doritosdip · 17/11/2019 16:04

Epstein was guilty as charged, surely his suicide proves this?

He was clearly silenced so he couldn't publicly spill the beans on rich and powerful men before he was given another joke of a punishment. He probably had masses of video and photo evidence that could have been used as blackmail and as a billionaire it wouldn't be money that he was after.

churchandstate · 17/11/2019 16:05

I think we should start a go fund me to get Andrew a room at the Premier Inn so he doesn’t have to stay with any more nonces.

doritosdip · 17/11/2019 16:06

I'm very surprised that nobody who worked or was a customer at PE Woking has popped up to say they recall seeing him in 2001.