Yes it was you!
Re lazy;
“If benefit claimants were expected to do this work I bet they'd find the will to get a paid job.”
“there is plenty of work for those who want it”
“The ones who refuse too should be giving the right help to make changes for their DC.” Implying not good parents too!
“Because I believe able body people who could work should work.” Being able bodied doesn’t magically make more jobs appear or eradicate other reasons a person may not be able to work full time eg you’re able bodied but you have disabled children to care for.
Addicted:
“there is in cue in the off licence, the coke and weed dealers are hanging about.”
“Society keeps going in the same circle. Poverty, addiction, crime, it is mostly boredom people need something to do.” I’ve never so much as smoked a cigarette, the vast majority of people I know on benefits don’t have addiction issues, I know a few who aren’t on benefits and who are in well paid jobs who do though! People don’t get addicted or commit crime because they’re bored!! Do you even know ANYTHING about addiction? I have a family rammed full of addicts of all kinds not just substances, imo AND from my training (ex nurse) addiction is far more complex than that. An awful lot of addicts are self medicating mh issues which are woefully underfunded and unavailable (I am as I said mentally ill myself. I’m currently housebound and very ill yet have been waiting over 6 months for ANY support), there’s also genetic components and learned behaviour elements.
Stupid:
“by giving them access to budgetting classes, community involvement, gardening etc.” I’m perfectly capable of budgeting, running a home, being involved in my community I don’t need taught these things and I don’t know many on benefits who do. A few may need help with budgeting due to the illogical benefits system but that’s beyond basic budgeting imo.
All directly quoted from your posts.
“I believe boredom worsens depression” I don’t even know where to begin with that! Do you have ANY real knowledge about mental illness?! It’s way way more complex than that.
As for
“I'd never call anyone stupid unlike you who called me un-educated.
Although it is true coming from my working class life.”
Uneducated is NOT the same as stupid, I too come from a very working class background and was the first in my family to go to 6th form let alone uni! Although I didn’t go to uni until I was in my 20’s first time.
I said you were coming across as uneducated because you were posting without having even rtft let alone from sounds of things having read any research or information as to WHY high numbers of people are unemployed in this country at the moment WHY there are problems with the benefits system or even how it works generally with your strange comment about ‘thursday pay days’
My parents both left school at 14 and willingly admit they are uneducated but are by no means stupid! They are at times out of touch with how things are BUT are willing to listen and learn when they realise this. He is retired army and hasn’t had to job hunt since the 60’s! At which point it was literally a case of leaving school on the Friday afternoon, asking at nearest shipyard if there were jobs going and being told “yes when can you start”! Even joining the army at that time wasn’t particularly involved! So he didn’t understand. Mum is much more aware of things having been a training spouse and having to find whatever work was possible around a husband who not only worked full time including shifts and 24 hour duties but who could be deployed for up to a year at a time. She has done all sorts from cleaning to retail security management and a load of roles in between!
This thread is full of very articulate, well informed and experienced posters explaining very good reasons why the ops idea was not only impractical but morally deeply dubious!
Yet you’ve plopped on arrogantly thinking you know better by enough that you don’t even need to read them!