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Thrown out of restaurant for bringing newborn baby

687 replies

toddlermom · 10/11/2019 13:39

Hi all,

Just need to vent and wondering if I should complain and if so who to. We went to one of my (ex) favourite London restaurants (Amaya) last night (wearing 5 week old baby in cloth sling, as I often do).

Walked in, got to our table, I took off my jacket and went to sit down but the waitress stopped me and said I couldn't sit down and had to leave the restaurant as she could now see (that I had taken off jacket) that I had a baby and 'children aren't allowed in the restaurant". I said it was a baby - who was asleep - and unlikely to wakeup - and she said it didn't matter, they don't let any children in the restaurant.

The manager came over, said the same thing, they were really, really rude and unfriendly. Didn't say sorry or sympathise, empathise in any way.

They don't have any social media presence so I can't even tweet them and vent on social. I could write a letter to the owner? Or is there anything else I should do? Or AIBU and just not go there again? Any advice welcome!! Thank you!

OP posts:
ferntwist · 13/11/2019 15:12

I wasn’t a martyr as it was fun and fulfilling and I was on mat leave and doing some extra work from home as I’m not rich enough not to work.

Who took the jam out of your doughnut then or do you just not like mothers much?

Footiefan2019 · 13/11/2019 15:16

Hahaha yeah I hate them.

Footiefan2019 · 13/11/2019 15:17

Going off your other posts where you criticize mothers for being frustrated with things their kids do, it seems you’re the Mum hater

ferntwist · 13/11/2019 15:18

I think we’re all too hard on kids and especially babies most of the time. Join me in the Baby Liberation Front!

Footiefan2019 · 13/11/2019 15:19

All this wide eyed faux innocence ‘I just don’t understand how you can not want to hold your baby 24/7 how you can possibly even want to poo alone omg children are the biggest blessing I nourished my child from my own breast I don’t understand how you couldn’t do these things ‘ is so irritating and yet, it is everywhere

Dieu · 13/11/2019 15:20

Sorry, but YABU. And how are they to know that your baby wouldn't wake up and start screaming? Unlikely, but still ... The customers in that case would start complaining, and it would be a massive ballache for the staff.

RedDogsBeg · 13/11/2019 15:23

By your logic @ferntwist the UK is more child friendly because the Michelin starred restaurant discussed in the OP does allow children at certain times and the one in Barcelona doesn't allow them at any time.

I spent part of my childhood in a country where toy shops actively encouraged children to get brand new toys out of the boxes and play with them with never a hint that the parents would be expected to purchase said toys, never seen any toy shops in France, Spain or Italy allowing this should we use your logic and conclude on the basis of this one extreme example that those countries are not child friendly?

ferntwist · 13/11/2019 15:26

I’ve never eaten in a Michelin place with a baby in either but definitely saw loads of babies and toddlers out at all hours on the continent and everyone was friendly and welcoming to the bambini.

cecilyrose · 13/11/2019 15:31

Stop being so entitled OP. It's a rule made by the restaurant & that's it. I can't imagine a screaming newborn is going to go down well for the ambient atmosphere of the place taking into consideration other diners. I'm not anti children myself but I wouldn't want to eat next to screaming kids, your child may well be quiet & go unnoticed but you can't predict where & when he/she is going to become unsettled. Don't bother writing in etc, just move on from it & research more child friendly restaurants FFS!!! It's not the big deal you are making it out to be.

cecilyrose · 13/11/2019 15:32

OP was thrown out 😂

You was asked to leave. Seriously 🙄

ferntwist · 13/11/2019 15:32

DM me if you want to get involved in an upcoming flash feed and/or feed in. Cheers mommas.

RedDogsBeg · 13/11/2019 15:32

So you just decided to lecture us all on how child unfriendly the UK is compared to 'the continent' without the relevant facts and experience as detailed in the opening post @ferntwist?

RedDogsBeg · 13/11/2019 15:36

@Footiefan2019, I'm on your team having read the latest cringe worthy post.

ferntwist · 13/11/2019 15:36

The convo had moved on from the very first page?
I was hardly lecturing, just giving my experience same as others gave theirs.

Footiefan2019 · 13/11/2019 15:38

I can think of nothing worse than the kind of people who organize things like feed ins, I can picture them in my head and it’s not attractive 😂

ferntwist · 13/11/2019 15:38

RedDogs ganging up in teams to throw insults? What a pair of bullies

Footiefan2019 · 13/11/2019 15:39

Jesus Christ, can dish it out but can’t take it clearly !!!

ferntwist · 13/11/2019 15:40

And there you have it - @Footiefan2019 careful now your misogyny is showing. Nothing unattractive at all about mothers and babies feeding

Footiefan2019 · 13/11/2019 15:41

No nothing at all. There’s plenty of unattractive traits about the sort of cringeworthy people who create their entire identities around it though.

RedDogsBeg · 13/11/2019 15:48

Yes you were lecturing and you have admitted you have no experience relevant to the op.

ferntwist · 13/11/2019 15:51

I wasn’t lecturing in any way, I was saying what my recent experience was on the continent eating out with a newborn, which was entirely relevant to the previous posts and the direction the conversation had gone in. You just don’t like my point of view. Stop bullying me

RedDogsBeg · 13/11/2019 15:52

I gave you the benefit of the doubt ferntwist until your last few comments then was more inclined to Footiefan2109's point of view, that's hardly bullying and I have not thrown any insults at you at all.

Alsohuman · 13/11/2019 15:54

Bloody hell, nothing as vicious as competitive mothering, is there?

Pursefirst · 13/11/2019 15:56

Oh bore off with your bullying accusations @ferntwist. It's not bullying if someone disagrees with you. Christ.

RedDogsBeg · 13/11/2019 15:57

Disagreeing with you and pointing out the flaws in your argument are NOT BULLYING. You have stated that the UK as a whole and it's people are child unfriendly, I am challenging you on that because your basis for that conclusion relevant to the subject of this thread is illogical.