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To think if a carpet is pissed on it should be replaced?

148 replies

GeometricGiraffes · 09/11/2019 14:57

Or at least professionally cleaned?

I'm taking an adult human here. Not a puppy or something.

It's been 'cleaned' by the pisser but I can still smell it.

It's an old carpet anyway but AIBU to want SOME money towards it being replaced or the pisser to pay for it to be professionally cleaned?

OP posts:
GeometricGiraffes · 09/11/2019 17:51

I say soon but its likely to be Feb /march.

I could do the £10 a week carpet but they just said my £450 opening credit Should cover the stairs and landing.

Is 450 quid normal?? I live in a small terrace. The landing is about 2.5m squared

OP posts:
LolaSmiles · 09/11/2019 17:53

I am horrified that so many posters would merely try to clean and would actually keep the carpet. It's vile
I'm more amused at posters who honestly claim they'd be replacing a whole carpet around an accident.

Drunk pisser was disgusting, but would all the people claiming it's vile also be wanting a new carpet if an elderly relative had an accident, or their pet did, or a friend's waters broke etc? I doubt it somehow.

goodwinter · 09/11/2019 17:55

I am horrified that so many posters would merely try to clean and would actually keep the carpet. It's vile

My rescue dog had a few accidents while he was settling in - we used enzymatic carpet cleaner. Granted, I don't know if human piss is different (I doubt it?), but we couldn't afford to get new flooring all over the house because of a dog accident! Sorry if you find that vile.

HeronLanyon · 09/11/2019 17:56

If it were me I would ask friend for cost of cleaning that area unless cost is minimal (in which case just forget it).
I would almost certainly strip that area now and chuck the carpet/underlay/any hardboard etc. Let the floorboards air fully. And clean them.
Use rug until you replace carpet in New Year.
Last thing I would do would be to add cleaning chemicals to the stink and leave it all festering.
Good god - good luck op.

goodwinter · 09/11/2019 17:58

OP, £450 sounds very expensive for a space of that size! I've just googled and found this:

www.mybuilder.com/pricing-guides/carpet-fitting-costs

Carpets are generally priced per square metre, and the cost depends on the material and manufacture of the carpet you choose. At the cheaper end of the spectrum, a simple, synthetic carpet can cost from as little as £5. At the other end, a luxurious, woolen carpet can cost in excess of £30 per metre. While the cost of the materials itself will make up the bulk of the price, there are other costs that need to be factored in, such as the cost of underlay, which is around £5 to £15 per square metre, carpet grippers, and of course, the cost of labour for the carpet fitter. With the addition of these, the total price for a carpet fitting job generally ranges from £13 per square metre for a basic carpet and installation, to £50 for a top-of-the range carpet. The average price is around £28 per square metre. For a room that measures 5m x 3m, the cost would therefore be £450.

So £450 for 15m2, whereas you're looking at £450 for 2.5m2 (unless you mean 2.5m*2.5m, which is still over double the price per square metre). You could probably have a good go of fitting it yourself!

HeronLanyon · 09/11/2019 17:59

Good winter - that’s not vile at all - part and parcel of having a dog is that there will be accidents from time to time. I’d feel completely differently about it all in your situation. Hope dog settled ok.

Elementalillusions · 09/11/2019 18:02

Those £10 a week carpet companies are awful, you end up paying twice what you would from a normal carpet place, I know because we almost made that mistake until a friend told us about her experience with them.

It’s only good if you are desperate for a carpet immediately and have no other way to pay for it.

We ended up waiting and paying less than £100 for an off cut/end of the roll for out landing and stairs.

Notcontent · 09/11/2019 18:03

If you are on a low income then I would remove just the bit of carpet on the landing and replace it with a small off-cut of a similar carpet. Don’t buy your carpet on credit - you will end up paying too much and get yourself into unnecessary debt.

Pizzaconundrum · 09/11/2019 18:03

I am horrified that so many posters would merely try to clean and would actually keep the carpet. It's vile

When my dad was terminally ill we'd have been replacing the carpet every single day of we'd replaced it every time it was pissed on. And the laminate elsewhere in the house was worse because the pee dripped down where the boards joined each other. With carpet at least it was easy to shampoo it.

But as to OP's question, I think it's only fair to ask for the cost of a professional clean, not to replace an already worn carpet.

SleepyKat · 09/11/2019 18:04

I’ve lost count of how many times my carpet has been pissed on (dogs). It doesn’t stink, it isn’t stained. I own a carpet shampooer and use it.

BringBiscuits · 09/11/2019 18:05

450 sounds a lot for a small area. And often those £10 a week places are no cheaper than paying upfront but I do appreciate you might not be able to do that anyway.

MesmorisedByTheLights · 09/11/2019 18:07

Unless someone was very ill, I would expect them to pay towards cleaning their own body fluids up of course.
And even if I were very ill, I would offer.

Majorcollywobble · 09/11/2019 18:08

It needs replacing for sure . The smell after professional cleaning will resurface over time .

picklemepopcorn · 09/11/2019 18:08

Given it's a land8ng, the quote to replace will be for stairs and landing.

First, get that nasty patch of carpet and the underlay up and in the bin.

See if the smell is gone. If so, I agree, a rug or offcut to cover that patch will work.

Then replace the lot at the time you were intending to.

MesmorisedByTheLights · 09/11/2019 18:09

I am horrified that so many posters would merely try to clean and would actually keep the carpet. It's vile
We can't all afford new things every time they get damaged. If I can clean or repair something, I do that.

StanleySteamer · 09/11/2019 18:12

"What has puppies got to do with it?"
If you ever bred them you'd know!!!

They are absolutely lovely little things most people agree, but they get to a stage where they run around and just pee as they run. you get used to it, but they still have accidents and they just need cleaning up. Diluted 50/50 white disinfectant sprayed on, scrubbed in with a coarse brush then mopped up with kitchen towel, then rinsed with clean water, and dried up again with kitchen towel or old towels if you don't mind washing them, then you put down a couple of sheets of kitchen towel then a pile of newspaper weighed down with books, leave it a while, the stain moves up into the paper, (acts like a wick) then you chuck it all out and leave it to dry. Job done. Could do the same with accidents done by children or other people with problems. As for having no carpets, our house in France, built from new in an area which is hot, has no carpets, tiled floors except for main bedroom which has wood. Clean up of our three dogs is easier but the fluff!!! So kind of get where you are coming from but carpets are just so much cosier on your (bare) feet in the winter. By the way OP that carpet price is well OTT. Get onto t'internet, Gumtree etc, maybe even Freecycle and find a secondhand bedroom carpet or similar. Or go for a cheapo one. Hall/stair/landing carpets need to be hardwearing not soft and luxurious.

TwattingDog · 09/11/2019 18:23

I paid about £180 for the hall and stairs, a similar size. Then £50 cash for the fitters.

I have only ever bought carpet from offcuts, never off a roll. It's far cheaper that way.

Go hire a rug doctor, you'll be amazed at what it will do. Ask at the hire place for enzymatic cleanser to do it with.

Elbeagle · 09/11/2019 18:28

StanleySteamer yeah obviously puppies wee on things. What I meant was ‘what the hell has breeding puppies got to do with this thread?’. The carpet was pissed on by an adult human, not a puppy.
And generally, most people don’t breed puppies, no.

NotMeNoNo · 09/11/2019 18:36

Honestly if you can afford it, hire a rug doctor for a day and ask for the "pet accident" cleaning solution.

One of my dc vomited very badly on our hall carpet and that rescued it.
It's disgusting what happened but with proper treatment most things can be cleaned.

MitziK · 09/11/2019 18:42

I paid £35 for an offcut that fitted the landing, 3 x £15 for sisal runners that fitted the stairs themselves, including going round a 90 degree bend and about £15 for three door strips. I did it myself in a (slow) day, armed with a Stanley blade/pack of fresh replacements and a 50p box of carpet tacks.

The cheapest I'd been quoted for fitting was phenomenal, as they priced up a huge piece where over half of it would be discarded because they were fitting to a three dimensional space.

Personally, I'd strip and dump the carpet right now, as the odds are that piss has soaked into the backing, which never gets fully cleaned by a carpet cleaner and you need the boards to completely dry out.

Inebriati · 09/11/2019 18:42

Wool carpets may smell of ammonia when they are wet, its partly the 'wet dog' smell of wet wool, and partly the chemicals used in processing and dyeing the yarn.

Best thing to do is use an enzyme based cleaner, and a high powered cleaning machine to dry the carpet. Wait til its bone dry then sniff it.

MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 09/11/2019 18:58

YANBU to expect some form of compensation from the Pisser but I think asking them to pay for a new carpet is a bit cheeky, given what you've said about it being worn and needing replacing anyway. YWNBU to do any of the following:

A.) Claim on your home contents insurance and ask the Pisser to pay the excess
B.) Ask the Pisser for some money towards a new carpet, underlay etc, but not the whole cost. I think anything up to £100 is fair as a professional cleaning service would probably charge this much anyway.
C.) Arrange for the carpet to be professionally cleaned at the Pisser's expense and replace it when you can afford to, as you planned to do anyway prior to the aforementioned Pissing incident.

MollyMorals · 09/11/2019 19:07

If the guy had been "on the piss" then normally his piss wouldn't be too strong, unless he woke up still drunk, and got disoriented/taken short.

Jeezo. None of that matters. There is NO EXCUSE for urinating on a carpet. Fuck sake do some people have no standards?

ThatMuppetShow · 09/11/2019 19:08

I'm more amused at posters who honestly claim they'd be replacing a whole carpet around an accident.

the OP is replacing it after Christmas anyway, so why keeping it stinking for 2 months? Hardly worth the few hundred quid a deep clean would cost to disinfect and clean the mess, especially if it's in the floorboards by now.

ThatMuppetShow · 09/11/2019 19:08

None of that matters. There is NO EXCUSE for urinating on a carpet. Fuck sake do some people have no standards?

technically there's no excuse to puke anywhere else than in the toilets, but I am guessing accidents do happen.