To think school shouldn’t insist that everyone wears a poppy and donates £1

[moonlightholly]

It’s supposedly in a deprived area too - there are constant reminders of the high percentage of pupils with PP.

Also, I don’t think a school should insist everyone wears a poppy - or AIBU?

"I so wish I could see the original letter"

Me too.

Because there's a world of difference between "for those who do not yet have Poppies, there will be a seller in the playground on Monday morning, suggested donation £1"

And "we expect all pupils to buy and wear Poppies on Monday. £1"

I can assure you hippo I have been completely clear in this.

Everybody is expected to bring £1 tomorrow.

Seriously why the questioning? We also had a charity event in September that ‘cost’ £5.

I don't think yOu have been as clear as you think you have.

But as you won't provide the actual request (fair enough) there isan't anything that can be done about that.

Everyone knows that just about anything can be misinterpreted. And people have been wondering if this is the case here. Not least because schools are not allowed by law to make additional compulsory charges.

I’ve told you the head said ‘we expect every single one of you to be here Monday with £1’

Seriously, what’s to misinterpret about that!

I’m not going to compromise my privacy here. Like I say it’s fair enough to not believe an OP when it’s clearly pages of froth bollocks but that isn’t the case here.

It is never okay to tell children they have to give to a certain charity, or that they have to wear something symbolic. One of the school's many jobs is to help children become their own people and make their own choices.

It is not right to force charitable action upon a child or parent, no matter what that charity might be.

How can anyone be 'anti-Poppy?' How utterly disgusting

@StreetwiseHercules It's about remembering the fallen not the bloody politics! Don't be so sanctimonious and tight

@BlackAudi - How can anyone be 'anti-Poppy?' How utterly disgusting

How can anyone support an organisation and an event that supports and venerates those who murdered innocent, unarmed civilians in incidents such as bloody Sunday? How utterly disgusting.

@UhareFouxisci The Royal British Legion, that charity supported by poppies, does partnership deals with weapons manufacturers

What a load of absolute tosh!!!!

An expectation does not mean it will happen
Just like my soon to be ex had the expectation that his shit would go on for ever..
Don’t do what you don’t want to do .
Seriously school are not able to enforce this.
Just as some schools are finding they can’t enforce correct uniforms or specified hair cut without a massive fight.

How can anyone be 'anti-Poppy?' How utterly disgusting

How can anyone think that this question hasn’t been asked and answered many times in the 17 pages of this thread? How utterly disgusting

@BlackAudi - What a load of absolute tosh!!!!

Some links that suggest otherwise:

www.opendemocracy.net/en/red-poppies-and-arms-trade/

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1412617/Legion-defends-arms-makers-gift.html

www.baesystems.com/en/our-company/corporate-responsibility/working-responsibly/supporting-communities/supporting-the-armed-forces

@moonlightholly "I’ve told you the head said ‘we expect every single one of you to be here Monday with £1’"

were you in the assembly?

Yes, I was.

and what exactly are they going to do when you don't turn up with £1?

@whyamidoingthis, yes let's send our military into conflicts in civilian ships and vehicles with absolutely no protection. Meanwhile, although it's sad that in this day and age conflict still exists, manufacturers such as those listed make equipment which is designed to keep them safe, and the equipment to have as much precision as possible to avoid collateral damage when possible. Ideally there would be no need for any of it, but that's not the reality we live in. I think when they have so much of tax payers money to create the equipment, it's great that they donate money to the RBL. You are in no way funding the companies by buying a poppy, the RBL doesn't give them any concessions or benefits from recieving it, so how ridiculous. It's up to individuals whether they buy and wear a poppy, but the fact that so many people seem smug about not wearing them as they are enlightened and everyone else is narrow minded and sheep like is odd.

@whyamidoingthis Don't be so ridiculous! It is about remembering the fallen and the sacrifice THEY made for us. You've got it all completely wrong. 🤦🏼‍♀️

OP people aren’t going to believe you just because you say they’re unreasonable not to. It doesn’t work like that, they get to make the judgement for themselves. Fair enough if you don’t want to share the wording but impossible to know if YABU or not without seeing it.

Well, I’m not going to compromise my privacy lumene

In any event I have told you the wording. I was THERE!

@Curtainly - yes let's send our military into conflicts in civilian ships and vehicles with absolutely no protection.

I was merely refuting @BlackAudi's insightful comment: What a load of absolute tosh!!!! I made no comment on how the military should be equipped. That is completely irrelevant to this discussion.

It's up to individuals whether they buy and wear a poppy, but the fact that so many people seem smug about not wearing them as they are enlightened and everyone else is narrow minded and sheep like is odd.

Personally, I think people who blindly support the military without considering the atrocities committed by them (e.g. Bloody Sunday) to be odd and very blinkered. If you want to wear a poppy, go ahead, but at least own your action and recognise what and who you are supporting with your donation.

You may decide that for you, the positive elements of the Legion outweigh the negative. That's fine, but at least recognise that for others that is not the case. The reason people are vocal about not wearing a poppy is because of the poppy fascism that is evident in the media and in society in the UK. People in the public eye are pilloried for not wearing the poppy and that is wrong, regardless of your views.

I don't know why people aren't believing the OP. I'm a teacher, and I certainly experienced such demands. Not recently, to be fair, but yes, I've known headteachers who would very much 'order' kids to do things that were entirely out of their control, (as it would be down to their parents to comply, not them).

No school can force you to pay anything. I think there may be a misinterpretation by the OP

I would never mention my not wearing a poppy to anyone, unless they asked. However some poppy wearers do make sure I know they're wearing one. If there's a smugness anywhere, it's among those who post and share endless poppy stuff on their FB pages to show just how caring they are.

@Sostenuto of course they can't. But they can make it very uncomfortable for anyone not to do so. Even if they don't actually check up, those children whose parents can't send anything are going to feel terrible.