To think school shouldn’t insist that everyone wears a poppy and donates £1

[moonlightholly]

It’s supposedly in a deprived area too - there are constant reminders of the high percentage of pupils with PP.

Also, I don’t think a school should insist everyone wears a poppy - or AIBU?

Dallas, can you just be aware of language please? That really is quite offensive

How?

YANBU, no one should feel pressured to wear a poppy, least of all children who have little understanding of the politics surrounding it.

I don't need to wear a poppy to remember the dead, I go to the graveyard and visit the rows of little white crosses marking the names of the fallen from my town, and light a candle at the memorial for the dead lying elsewhere to remember all who died, including my 3 great-uncles who the poppies don't commemorate because they were on the wrong side (not Nazis but co-belligerents fighting for their own country)

@PineappleLumps

Another citizen born here and lived here all my days (who's never worn a poppy and never will). That's for the invite to leave though, I'd consider it if I knew anyone like you in real life

(Also another one that's in bits laughing at your ridiculousness) but that's beside the point

My dad fought in ww2. He couldn't bear the jingoism about it. He also felt that people should get on with it and focus on the peace we've achieved. I'm increasing uncomfortable with poppies especially since the association with the edl etc...(see facebook ads - most of the go back to something associated).
I'm uncomfortable with the the 'popular nationalism' associated with it.

Um - ‘SEN unit in a sink estate primary school’?

How is that offensive?

I work in an SEN unit - that's what it's called and the school is smack bang in the middle of a sink estate.

I don't know what you are talking about?

I donate every year but rarely wear a poppy because I am unorganised and rarely wear the same coat/jacket 2 days in a row. Therefore instead of creating waste I don't take a poppy. I have family that served. I have friends serving now. I support our armed forces. I have protested against wars and hope for peace. I worry about the rise in hate in the UK and the possibility it may lead to war. I do not need to wear a poppy to show other people I have given money to a charity. I would wear a poppy if going to a rememberance event but not for dropping kids at school and dashing in torrential rain into work. If anyone thinks I am disrespectful that is their issue not mine!

Ok.

Well, firstly, ASD and most SEN aren’t linked to income so the fact the school is in a deprived area isn’t relevant and also I think ‘sink estate’ is really quite unpleasant.

Seriously, you work with children with special needs and don’t see a problem with the job description as you gave it?

Well, firstly, ASD and most SEN aren’t linked to income

Show me where I said it was.

the fact the school is in a deprived area isn’t relevant

I had previously posted about the deprivation in the school I worked in. So yes it was.

I think ‘sink estate’ is really quite unpleasant.

That's your opinion. I don't think it is at all. It's a very well known and well used phrase, which isn't generally considered offensive.

Seriously, you work with children with special needs and don’t see a problem with the job description as you gave it?

No, seriously, I don't.

My DS at 6 might have done similar (made white poppies and given them out with a lecture.) But the whole poppy thing just hadn't been a big deal for him or us at that stage.
He did, in Year 3, put his hand up when a teacher asked the class how many boxes they hoped would be brought in for Samaritan's purse and say 'Zero'.

Shame you struggle so hard with people not obeying yours derxa

Oh great, now we've reached the point where people are telling others, 'get out of my country if you don't like our traditions.'

This kind of shite is exactly what puts a lot of people off wearing the poppy.

I don’t care what culture your from, in this country we wear a poppy and Remember the fallen. If you don’t like it feel free to not be here!

And that is exactly the attitude that has endeared the British forces to so many around the world.

I don’t care what culture your from, in this country we wear a poppy and Remember the fallen. If you don’t like it feel free to not be here!

But there are people born and bred here from other cultures. Where would you like them to be, other than their own country?

@PineappleLumps Lots of people who aren’t from other cultures don’t wear the poppy. Where should they go?

My youngests school got the kids all hyped up and insisted they bring in their money to buy a poppy or bracelet or key ring then banned all the kids from wearing them to school

Our schools have never insisted that dc wear poppies. I've never actually
Bought one.

If you don’t like it feel free to not be here!

Makes me think of the Jim Jefferies gun control clip on youtube.

"Ifyoudon'tlikeitgohomeifyoudon'tlikeitgohomeifyoudon'tlikeitgohome"

I don’t care what culture your from, in this country we wear a poppy and Remember the fallen. If you don’t like it feel free to not be here!

Why is it that people who come up with this particularly unpleasant brand of so-called patriotism have so little respect for their country's language that they'd can't be bothered to write it properly?

I don’t care what culture your from, in this country we wear a poppy and Remember the fallen. If you don’t like it feel free to not be here!

The armed forces are inclusive. They take people from all cultures. It's not just white British men and women who you're remembering when you're wearing your poppy.

I don’t care what culture your from, in this country we wear a poppy and Remember the fallen. If you don’t like it feel free to not be here!

🙄 Oh dear! Where do you suggest the people who choose not to wear a poppy go exactly? At times like this I wish there was an emoji for 'ignorant TWAT'.

Insist that is not right. Glad they don't insist in my kids school because I don't support it.

Fully see the irony in forcing people to buy and wear a poppy knowing what the poppy supposedly stands for...

Back to the original post .
I still don’t see how this could be demanded and how it could be followed up.
You can not be forced to purchase a poppy or enforced to wear one.
The case of schools enforcing parents not to remove learners from school for holidays has been extremely hard to enforce .
Parents just pay the fine willingly or get a doctors note.
If OP certain this is the case.
Follow your beliefs and make a difference by not doing what has been asked do not give into this blackmail
Secondly write a brief note.
I so wish I could see the original letter
Nothing of this sort can be made compulsory the school can appeal to your better nature for a donation but can not insist.
To @ exLtEveDallas post unfortunately has truth and is part of why schools have PP and now the capital thingy sorry to early in the morning

In this country we allow people to choose if they wear a poppy or not. We respect each individuals right to believe and do what they think is right. If you don’t agree with that perhaps it is YOU who should try somewhere else to live?