To object to a religious song at a baby class?

[SecondTimer2019]

I take my baby (6mo) to a baby sensory class and this week the theme was 'rainbows'. At the end one of the songs played was 'Who put the colours in the rainbow?', which I remember from my childhood.

It asks who created all the amazing things in the world and ends by saying things like 'It can't be chance' and 'God made all of these'.

I'm not religious and think this environment should be secular. Obviously my baby can't understand the lyrics yet but I still feel it is inappropriate.

I'm thinking of contacting the organisers to let them know my feelings.

AIBU?

You can always take your baby somewhere else.

Also good point by PP about Christmas carols. Will you turn the radio or TV off when they come on?

Hmm??

She's 17 and not sure what she believes in, which I'll be honest - I know many many people with the same view.
Her going to baby group and singing nursery rhymes with a few lines about God, has done no harm.
Who gives a shit, if there is a God - he's a definite twat!
If the OP is so opposed to it, stop going and find another group to go and whine about!!

What's wrong with being exposed to other religions?

"People of this faith believe X, Y and Z, and sing this song. Let's try it!" Fine (so long as it's not always Christianity), great, wish I'd had more of it growing up.

"Let's just sing a song about how great God/Jesus/Allah/Buddah is without any comment and state it as fact." Not fine. IMO.

Wouldn't bother me at all.

If it was every week then I’d say something but for a one off I think you have to suck it up and just let it go. I say this as someone who is effectively forced to send their children to a (very) COfE school due to catchments. I went to a COfE school that wasn’t that religious other than for assemblies and I’m quite happy with church attendance, hymns etc but this one takes religion into lessons and I’m quite uncomfortable with it. At some point, there has to be a more serious discussion about the role of religion in schools etc.

Good luck at Christmas with the carols etc

This is a joke, isn’t it?

As a non-religious person who is sick of being judged according to frameworks of beliefs that I do not subscribe to, I wouldn’t be happy with this either OP.

There are already so many fantastic playgroups run by churches, where the song would be acceptable, no need for it at all at a secular, paid-for baby group.

I'm sure baby won't be asking to attend Sunday school anytime soon.
When they start school they mostly believe until they stop believing in Santa. Especially if parents don't allow them to believe by telling them it's just a story.

There are already so many fantastic playgroups run by churches, where the song would be acceptable, no need for it at all at a secular, paid-for baby group.

There is no need for it not to be there either. The OP does not have to go if she doesn’t like it.

Really? Ffs get a grip woman. The baby is going to grow up with religious information around it for the rest of it life.

I came on to say, it's a song, it doesn't matter, don't be ridiculous, if you don't like it don't go. But I see that's already been said!

I am going to go against the grain here and say that I do think it’s inappropriate. What if there were members of other faiths in the group? That needs to be taken into account just as much as the sensibilities of atheists/agnostics. It’s hardly comparable to Christmas themes. That’s a religious holiday and some mention of god/Jesus etc is to be expected. Same goes for if you send your child to a church school. There’s no automatic link to god when it comes to rainbows. Physics maybe, but not god.

My children go to a Catholic school and took part in a church run toddler group. However, I wouldn't be happy if baby sensory or that kind of group did this song either. Same goes for ba ba fucking rainbow sheep that was imposed at a group as a mum complained about the original along with Mary Mary quite contrary due to the unfounded Catholic allegory.

I suspect that if the song were, say, praising the Jehovah's Witnesses or the scientologists, people here wouldn't be so thrilled about it. Everyone draws the line somewhere.

God is a very general term. God doesn’t necessarily mean ‘Christian God’.

do they do colours of day-that was always my fave at school wasnt even a religious one some of the songs are great

I think you really need to choose your battles. You do realise that children have to learn about all religions in school now?

I don’t think you need to worry about your 6 month old joining a cult anytime soon anyway 😆👍.

I hate having to treat religion as if it's not nonsense because other people believe.

And I hate having to treat my faith as if it's nonsense because other people don't believe.

What if there were members of other faiths in the group?

I think you’ll find belief in a deity is central to most beliefs, regardless of the label it carries.

Colours of Day is pretty Christian.

I understand your point OP. I wouldn't complain or make an issue of it, however the introduction of 'God as fact' into a secular baby class is unnecessary and off putting in my opinion. Yes, there's an overload of it in schools, at Easter, Christmas etc, but does that make it right? If anything, all the more reason to leave it out of some things!

You are only BU if this was a church group.

I thought Paul Newman was great in it.

Can't you just, y'know, talk to your child about your position on this as they get older? Can't you just mouth the words of a jolly song and think no more of it?