To object to a religious song at a baby class?

[SecondTimer2019]

I take my baby (6mo) to a baby sensory class and this week the theme was 'rainbows'. At the end one of the songs played was 'Who put the colours in the rainbow?', which I remember from my childhood.

It asks who created all the amazing things in the world and ends by saying things like 'It can't be chance' and 'God made all of these'.

I'm not religious and think this environment should be secular. Obviously my baby can't understand the lyrics yet but I still feel it is inappropriate.

I'm thinking of contacting the organisers to let them know my feelings.

AIBU?

I’m pretty dismayed too @Inthemoment38

Typical AIBU - once there have been one or two vicious responses, the pile on begins. I guess a lot of posters have a lot of aggression to get out today 🤷‍♀️

The UK is not a secular country, it's a Christian one. The Church of England is the state religion here, so you have to expect some mention of it.
God bless you and your baby.

I’m not anti religion. I just don’t want it to intrude into my life unless I actively invite it. As I said, the fact that so many see no problem with impairing Christianity on others shows the entrenched nature of Christian privilege.
Anyone running a non faith related playgroup should consider whether anything they do might exclude people of different faiths or none. It’s just common sense in a multi cultural society.

@BertrandRussell, it’s only a multicultural society in some parts of the country. Where I live those other cultures are predominantly Eastern European and Catholic. Religious references would encourage them to a playgroup.

Sorry OP but FFS, just suck it up.

Jeepers @Alsohuman - is there really the need to be so argumentative? The UK is multicultural. That's fact.

Jeepers @ginyogarepeat is there really any need to jump on someone who disagrees because their experience is different?

Actually I agree with Alsohuman,very good point.

Christian privilege Ohhh ffs

The UK is not a secular country, it's a Christian one. The Church of England is the state religion here, so you have to expect some mention of it.

Not in the UK, the Church of England is NOT the state religion in Scotland.

The Church of Scotland is Presbyterian, a branch of Reformed (or Calvinist) Protestantism, not Anglican.

It's still a Christian denomination though

There are lots of songs where the lyrics are questionable - not hust on relation to religion but all sorts of areas. Pock your battles, this wouldnt be one of mine.

It's still a Christian denomination though

Indeed it is, does not change the fact that the Church of England is categorically not the state religion of the UK. We fought long and hard to not have Anglicanism imposed on us, it's in the Act if Union.

Yes I understand

At least we have freedom of worship in the UK which I don't think is always valued.

At least we have freedom of worship in the UK which I don't think is always valued.

Another thing fought long and hard for. I agree it is often not appreciated. Also under appreciated is that the word 'secular' does not mean 'not religious'. You can be Christian and secular.

it doesn't make sense to try to draw a parallel with religious songs and Mother’s Day/Father’s Day @DarlingNikita you do know that mother’s day traditionally started by workers/servants having the day off and returning to their childhood homes and going back to their ‘mother church’. So, religious based.

I will give you Father’s Day, as I don’t think that has any religious elements traditionally, it’s more a commercial day and I think started in America.

Thank you Arnold

This - of clergy) not subject to or bound by religious rule; not belonging to or living in a monastic or other order.

Very interesting that we tend to associate this word with non religious affiliation

LOLZ when you’re dying to send your kid to a Catholic primary school because it’s rated outstanding.

Didn't it used to be called Mothering Sunday traditionally anyway and affiliated with the church calendar

What a boring world this would be if people couldn’t share stories/songs/ideas from their faith or culture.

And of course there’s the fact that’s enforcing secularism on society has never ended well.

Totally not unreasonable. These environments should not be used for God botherers to spread their nonsense.

There's no state religion in Scotland.
And because Christian privilege determines when the days off are this is kind of right but - Christians make up the biggest number of religious people in the UK, so what other belief system would be base holiday entitlement on? If it moved to a secular system it would be the case that no two jobs had the same days off. I'm not sure that would be any better for anyone - not families anyway.

“And of course there’s the fact that’s enforcing secularism on society has never ended well.”
I don’t think anyone has ever tried.

And of course there’s the fact that’s enforcing secularism on society has never ended well

The USA and France both seem to be doing OK with their secular constitutions. I mean, they have their issues like the rest of us, but I don't see either clamouring to return to a state religion.

Pandaintheporridge, I imagienif Christianity had never existed our holidays would be pretty much as they are now. They follow the seasons, as is the case for any culture. The religious aspects are laid over the top of them.

(also I didn't mean to imply the Church of Scotland was a state religion in the sense the CofE is south of the border, just that the majority of Christian Scots are not Anglican, Presbyterians being the most common followed by Roman Catholics, when I lived in England I was shocked at how few people realised this given the 'dour Presbyterian' stereotype)

Understood about Scotland, that was my mistake. Church of England is the state religion of England 👍🏼 so of this happened in England this is to be expected.