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to ghost my friend, who has mental health difficulties?

91 replies

yellowbasket · 05/11/2019 21:26

Long term poster, have name changed.

Long story short, I have been friends with said friend for fourteen years. We met when we worked together, just after leaving school. Friend's family fairly emotionally unavailable, and I was relied upon as her main source of support through various inpatient psychiatry admissions etc. Various calls in the middle of the night, with her feeling suicidal, my going to visit her at short notice due to this also.

Lots of personal sacrifice on my part, including her uncle (married, and easily old enough to be my dad) coming onto me at nineteen, when she stayed at my place once, in a particularly difficult spell.

Fast forward many years, her mental illness hasn't really subsided. No recent admissions, but ongoing depressing thoughts, feelings of abandonment, low self esteem, thoughts of self harm etc. It feels that whatever level of support I can offer is never enough, and the need for it never ending.

Over time, I have found this exhausting. The more I engage with texts, calls, the more she calls and the more she 'needs' me. I have my own physical health condition, which can be badly affected by stress.

Over the past two years, I have tried to gradually reduce this contact, from several times daily to daily, to weekly, to monthly etc. I worry that if I tell her how I feel, that she will try to kill herself in response. I thought the phased approach was best.

Two years later, she is still calling me every week. I have not answered in the past year, but she still calls.

What am I to do? She is a nice person I find any contact with her at all exhausting. How do I make this stop?

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KatherineJaneway · 05/11/2019 21:31

So you haven't talked to her in a year?

thepeopleversuswork · 05/11/2019 21:32

You don't owe anyone unconditional support unless they take some responsibility for themselves. Your friend obviously finds life difficult and that must be very hard for her, but there seems to be a massive imbalance. Depending on one person like this for all her mental health support is too heavy a burden.

You don't say whether you've told her directly what you've just posted here. Have you told her that while you love her and she is your friend, she can't rely on you for all her support?

If you have and she hasn't attempted to deal with that then I think you are totally within your rights to cut her off. No one has the right to demand this level of support from someone without any thought for their needs or boundaries.

She sounds quite selfish -- and often that can go hand in hand with depression so its difficult.

Could you write her an email saying you love her and care for her but she needs to respect your boundaries and telling her how drained you feel by the relationship?

yellowbasket · 05/11/2019 21:33

No... but she continues phoning me! It never stops. Each time, I feel bad.

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Mothermia · 05/11/2019 21:35

I’d say if you haven’t talked in a year, the ghosting ship has already sailed! Does she leave voicemails or send messages or anything?
Does she just call every week and you don’t answer?
I don’t really know what to suggest, it seems really clear you’re not interested in a friendship any more, do you want to go entirely NC?

MsPotterPepper · 05/11/2019 21:36

Block her number.

Aquamarine1029 · 05/11/2019 21:37

I would just block her number and email address.

holidays987 · 05/11/2019 21:37

Sounds like you've made it incredibly clear, if you haven't taken her calls for a year.
Just carry on as you are if you feel you can't have an open conversation with her.

QueenofPain · 05/11/2019 21:41

I don’t think there’s any dilemma here, you’ve not acknowledged her in a year, the ghosting is done. She hasn’t killed herself yet, so she must be more self sufficient than either of you realise. I would find this exhausting OP, I don’t know how you did it as long as you did. I couldn’t provide this level of engagement and responsibility to someone who didn’t either come from my own body, or support me on the same unconditional level.

thepeopleversuswork · 05/11/2019 21:42

Sorry hadn't seen that you hadn't taken her calls in the past year. Yes you've already ghosted her.

If she's still not taken the hint after a year then I'm not sure what you can do except block her.

KTheGrey · 05/11/2019 21:43

Do you ever enjoy each other's company - without any obligation on either side, just hang out together or go shopping or running or anything? Because otherwise there isn't much there, except for your therapy-support role.

yellowbasket · 05/11/2019 21:46

Thanks all. Just needing the reassurance that I am not a horrible person for feeling this way. It seems that the more I offer, the more she needs. I have my own needs, my priorities have changed, and I cannot offer daily support for the rest of my life.

She doesn't leave voicemails but sends brief WhatsApp messages. I gave fleeting 'got to go' type replies to some of the messages until around six months ago.

I have hinted briefly at feeling drained by the relationship. She is very blaming of me if I don't answer- e.g. that she was feeling suicidal in the middle of the night and I wasn't available.

I have thought about sending an email or suchlike. I just worry that any sense of confirmed 'rejection' that she would perceive from this would be more 'immediate' than a gradual (continuing!!) phasing out. I worry that this, or blocking her, would escalate her suicidal thoughts. I also worry that any such contact like this would undo the months of effort I have made to reduce contact, and that this would become daily again.

It is a very one sided relationship. As others have suggested above, she should have taken the (gradual) hint by my trying to as kindly as I can, reduce contact. My initial plan was to reduce this to every few months, rather than stopping altogether, but she just keeps calling. I can't see any other way. I am exhausted and dread the phone calling again.

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thedevilinablackdress · 05/11/2019 21:51

You've already done the ghosting. Delete/block her number and move on.

MyKingdomForBrie · 05/11/2019 21:56

Sorry but I think it's really cruel not to explain. Just say is cannot take your calls any more, my own mental health is too fragile. I'm sorry'. It's not hard and it must be horrible for her to just constantly wonder.

CravingCheese · 05/11/2019 22:02

I feel like ghosting anyone is sort of horrible... But expecting you to be her sole (?) support system is really not acceptable either. And you deserve to take care of yourself instead of investing sooo much in a one sided relationship.

She hasn't killed herself yet. And being without you may lead to her seeking out other avenues?

Idk. I don't even know her and I feel bad for her. So I honestly understand that this must be horrible for you.

But I think simply continuing with what you're currently doing would probably be best. You've ghosted her successfully.

Gingerkittykat · 05/11/2019 22:03

Please don't just block her as she is emotionally fragile and this could hit her badly.

I would honestly tell her how you feel and set strict boundaries, even if that is no contact at all. She needs to know contacting you during the night feeling suicidal is inappropriate for example.

Was there every any fun in your relationship or was it all heavy stuff?

Glacecherrychops · 05/11/2019 22:04

It sounds like she might have a personality disorder.

You don't owe her anything, and if you don't want to continue the friendship that's your right

Sammyp235 · 05/11/2019 22:05

I think just block her number as the worst of its over. As a previous poster said, it’s been a year since you spoke and she’s been ok since. (I’m the sense she hasn’t harmed herself in such a way you worried).

It’s a sad situation but you can be expected to be the sole carer of a grown adult. Some people will suck the life of you if you give them an inch. Hopefully she’ll get the help she needs, but it’s not fair to put it on you.

yellowbasket · 05/11/2019 22:10

Thanks everyone. The various answers have all reflected my own thoughts on this, it's really not a straightforward issue. I think the 'least bad' option I have is to continue as I am doing. I worry that an email/blocking etc won't be helpful to either of us.

Though I get the drawn out pain this must be for her, I feel the pain at least might lessen over time, whereas the news all at once (via even a nicely worded email...or alternatively blocking her) would just be overwhelming.

In terms of myself, I worry that definitive action, will increase the contact to daily, or more frequently, which I cannot deal in a cycle again.

I agree with her having a personality disorder from my Googling. This has been suggested to her mental health services and she doesn't agree. I don't think there is much else I can do.

Thank you to everyone for your varied and thoughtful responses.

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Ruth96 · 05/11/2019 22:10

There is support out there for people.lkke you supporting people with mental health issues.

I think if she has feelings of abandonment endow self esteem already and you after 14 years being her rock just ghost her.

Clearly she is struggling with this if it has been a year and not moved on.

Find support groups in local area and sign post her to them. Say you'll he friends and toir there but can not maintain the level of support. If she is unable to accepts this then explain to her the rational for blocking her.

1 in 4 suffer with depression let alone other mental health issues.

You never know what's around the corner.

thepeopleversuswork · 05/11/2019 22:11

Agree that it’s not ideal that you didn’t tell her why you had run out of patience but I think you have the right to decide that you’re putting into this more than you are getting out.

It sounds as if the friendship had become very draining and toxic and you are entitled to put your needs first.

It is probably too late now. I would chalk it up to experience.

Ruth96 · 05/11/2019 22:12

Why does personality disorder all ways get brought into it.

The stigma around this infuriating.

CravingCheese · 05/11/2019 22:12

Blocking her (she'd realise that if she called, right?) would also be a signal of you investing additional resources. Just like unfriending her would be..

Seems like it might destroy any progress made.

And now you could basically relax in the knowledge that she's still alive and that you did successfully ghost her...?

AlphaNumericalSequence · 05/11/2019 22:14

If you haven't spoken to her for a year, then you shouldn't say anything now to explain your decision or whatever. Just block her number and email address etc.
I do think that it was perhaps wrong of you not to have explained things to her more clearly before you withdrew. It must be quite hard to have a friend who is initially over-available and then withdraws without explanation.
However, it is done now, and you are not responsible for the feelings of someone who is no longer part of your life. Just move on and chalk it down to experience.

Butchyrestingface · 05/11/2019 22:25

Your thread title makes it sound like something you are contemplating doing whereas the reality is you’ve ghosted her for a year - and she hasn’t killed herself.

Whilst you have every right to end the friendship - and I’m not saying I’d behave differently - for any reason, I think it’s a shame you chose to ghost her rather than have an honest conversation.

victorioussponges · 05/11/2019 22:29

Sorry if I missed this - do you have any mutual friends or know of someone who is still in contact with her? Anyone who night be able to tell you what sort of place she's in at the moment and so how she's likely to take the two approaches (block versus tell). It's possible she's been wondering about the lack of contact and an answer could ultimately help both you and her get closure. Equally, though, I can see how it could blow things up depending on her current position - so in your shoes I'd really like to hear from someone who'd been in recent contact with her. All the best - a very tricky situation all round Flowers