Men sat in women's changing rooms

[nycfrog]

AIBU to get annoyed with women who plop their (male) SOs on the stools/seating in changing rooms?

Yesterday I needed the store assistant to help me with the back of a dress - on the way out of the changing rooms I realised my bare back had basically been exposed to a random bloke sat at the entrance. I know the shop assistant probably could have been more discreet but aibu to think they could sit somewhere else?

The post was about a man in the woman's changing room.

Yes, and then very quickly other posters extended the topic to complain about couples who shop together, men who loiter next to partners in the underwear or make up section, men who stand near the outer entrance of the changing room, men being in women's clothes shops at all etc etc.

Unusually I have known 3 genuinely lone parent dads. If their daughters were old enough to be wearing clothes from New Look then they would have been given money to go shopping with their mates.

I could just imagine doing that with my dd. Needs to buy a pair of smart trousers and returns with a micro mini skirt (2 sizes too small) and a crop top.

😂

I often like asking my husband's opinion on new clothes.

He would never sit inside a female changing room though. He knows it might make some women uncomfortable, and he would hate to do that.

He was sat at the entrance not in the changing room.

I disagree with any opinions men cannot be in the womenswear sections. I know no women IRL who object to this but know plenty who object to men in women's spaces. If another was to start a post on this, Im confident the majority will say it's ridiculous. My aunt primarilyshops in the menswear section, she is rather large and feels more comfortable in the looser fit of men's clothing. An ex wears long skirts, has done for years and years we are on friendly terms, he's had a few comments asking if he is trans and actual encouragement from strangers to take medication!! Wear whatever you want, buy for whoever you want. I strongly object too men in women's spaces, such as a changing room. I also disagree with women who enter men's spaces, although as the majority of violent and sexual crimes are committed by men I worry for their safety, but also for the decent men who feel uncomfortable. I have not read every comment, but it looks like you've jumped the gun in a few instances and taking an off comment that I'm not convinced is genuine and used that as general consensus. Start a new post on opinions of men in women's wear sections but specifically not the changing rooms and see what the consensus is then.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe I just don't get why a man wouldn't be allowed near the changing rooms or how this would work in reality. Take Matalan or Primark, the mens and womens changing areas are right next to each other. How should the men get to those without being near the entrance to the womans? What if there is a queue?

Fair enough, don't allow either sex inside the others changing area, that is the safe space. Not the open public area surrounding it.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting men shouldn’t be allowed in women’s shops.
Where has that been said ?

Here...

have some empathy or don't take him in the women's clothing section.

Quite clearly says womens clothing section”, not changing rooms...clothing section*

Bold went totally wrong there oops

. I have not read every comment, but it looks like you've jumped the gun in a few instances and taking an off comment that I'm not convinced is genuine and used that as general consensus.

Perhaps then, to avoid looking foolish and accusing people of jumping the gun, you would be advised to read the whole thread and then you would see for yourself what has and hasn't been said?

I could just imagine doing that with my dd. Needs to buy a pair of smart trousers and returns with a micro mini skirt (2 sizes too small) and a crop top.
Yes they all do that. I did something similar myself at 12-1st time I went shopping alone. So you send them back to return for something appropriate. Lesson learned. It's called parenting. Or, it is now. It used to be called common sense.

JustAnotherMammi that would be interesting, maybe a poll chucked in too. I think you are right and the answers would be very different.

Some teens don’t know what the word appropriate is and would have a very different opinion than me. There will be occasions I go shopping with my teens, boys and girls.🤷‍♀️

But places like Top Shop and New Look are pure teen fashion. I just can't see it tbh.

As I said earlier, I'm no teen and I shop in both those places. Sometimes my DH comes with me.

Sometimes we drag dh along if we want his two penneth.

But places like Top Shop and New Look are pure teen fashion. I just can't see it tbh

As I said earlier, I'm no teen and I shop in both those places. Sometimes my DH comes with me

Same, new look even have a maternity line, how is that strictly teen fashion? Or all the business wear lines?

No you are misunderstanding. I didn't say adult women don't shop there. I meant that they are teen plus shops. So a dad is unlikely to be shopping there alone because they are not for children.

Looking at your diagram OP, YANBU.

That man was invading your privacy. If some posters here are happy with that scenario, woo-hoo for them, but many, many women would be uncomfortable with that, so those posters shoukd not sign away boundaries on behalf of others.

IfNot

But what about the mens clothes line they sell in Top Man (normally in the same shop) and New Look?

Also, why wouldn't a dad go shopping with his child into one of these shops? New Look has a 9 plus line. It is ridiculous to suggest men shouldn't be in these shops, not only because they sell mens clothes!

Do you think we should have single sex shops with the other sex banned from entering?

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Has anyone seen this regarding centre parks.

FWIW - lesbian here.
I don’t look at anybody, hate changing rooms with curtains, usually change with my back to the mirror to make sure nobody yanks the curtain while I’m in there. Very rarely walk out of the changing room for a better view in a larger mirror and even then studiously avoid other people.
I love clothes so buying them is always a hassle but refuse to buy online unless it’s not in stock. Keeping the High Street in business as it were.

But then sometimes I feel like a dying breed-I actually think manners mean allowing people to be at their ease as much as you can. In other words, not relentlessly putting your own selfish wants first and following unwritten rules that were made to let women have their privacy and dignity.
How old fashioned of me.

But only as long as other people have the same boundaries as you, yeah? To hell with the women who want their husbands around. Their needs Are less than yours. Yours are the only right way.

Do you think we should have single sex shops with the other sex banned from entering?

Maybe single sex town centres are the answer with men or women allowed in alternate towns across the country.

Do you think we should have single sex shops with the other sex banned from entering?
Nope. Already said that. I just don't think men generally frequent teen fashion shops.

Catsfriend don't think you have to justify yourself, lesbians should never have been in this debate. You are a female, no reason you should not be in the female changing rooms and you should ever have to explain your activities whilst trying on clothes ffs.