In being at the end of my tether with ds? (Toilet issues.)

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Name changed for this as people on here know me irl but I've been around for ages and promise I'm not a weird poo perve.

DS is nearly 6 and just started school this September. He's been fully potty trained since he was about 2.5 (I think, around then anyway) with no issues.

He's just started pooing himself everyday! Sometimes twice a day. It's been about 2 weeks now. We've been very gentle and understanding but yesterday it ashamed to say I got pretty angry with him. I realised he had poo all over his hands and clothes and was just carrying on as normal! He got really upset and obviously I felt like a very shitty parent.

He's also been hiding his pooey pants in places.

Today I got a call from his teacher, he's done it at school. Is this something I should take him to a doctor about? Could it be a physical thing? I yet can't see how or why it would be psychological.

The other kids are going to start to notice, it's a small community, people remember things kids did 30 years ago. He'll forever be the kid that used to shit himself.

Anyone ever experienced this? Ugh. My patience is wearing really thin with it but I want to be as gentle as possible, going in full steam clearly won't help, especially if it isn't a medical thing.

@Collectorofcookbooks thank you so much! It sounds like such a small issue when you tell people but it's really life changing. I was in bits a couple of days last week. Joining the Facebook group now!!

Would it be bad to give him another dose of the laxative this morning? He's not due back at school until Wednesday (it's a holiday here today and tomorrow his teacher isn't in so she's advised I wait for her to be there to send him back) so I feel like it would like it all cleared out!

The doctor's office is shut today also (whole bloody country is off a party from dh who's suddenly landed a huge job and is working 7 days a week and never home, probably contributing to my feeling so desperate last week.)

I think you are supposed to taper down to a maintenance dose not stop. Look at the Merrill Bristol stool chart for info!

@dr oh no he's still having the miralax (the same as movicol I think) every day as maintenance (and will for at least 6 months) but they also gave him some strong laxatives for the initial clean out.

We're meant to adjust the movicol until he's doing 1 or 2 'soft mashed potato' poos a day.

Clearly the Bristol stool chart is too tricky, when I mentioned it the doctor was very surprised.

I do think it's a bit that they always compare the poos to foodstuffs. It's put me off mash for a bit.

DD happily tells us "it's a sausage".

Ds wanted to look at one of mine the other day (I know, ) and said 'Jesus, looks like a bloody python.

@ahhgoongoongoonhaveacupoftea

Because where I live is AMAZING. Ds is in a class of 6 with a budget of $24,000 a year per pupil.

We haven't had a crime where I live in over 5 years. No violent crime in over 10 years.

Nobody locks their doors. I haven't taken my car keys out of the ignition in probably 5 years.

When my Dad fell sick in the UK my next door neighbour I'd met once gave us the money to fly home immediately.

When I had ds we didn't cook for almost 2 months, friends and neighbors set up a meal train and delivered hot meals to our house.

Get to fuck with your xenophobia. I adore the UK but even all of my friends and family say they'd much rather live where I do in the States than the UK. The sense of community here is astounding. Everyone I live with is kind, clever and can fend for themselves.

Why would you actively choose to live in the United States ? I don't get it

And also because of the increasing amount of this kind of narrow minded, judgemental and ignorant statements from British people.

Sorry to every other lovely Brit that's posted on this thread.

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Each to their own.

I had a similar issue with my dc, our paediatrician told us that it's the most common issue that she sees with kids, and most importantly that the child needs to be on meds every day until the bowls have healed. It can stretch which causes reoccurring problems. As pp's have mentioned movicol mummies is an amazing source of info. Good luck!

He just woke up (10.30pm) because he needed to poo! I was dropping off and heard a scurry and he was sat on the loo all surprised and angry.

I'm so so pleased that he felt the urge even when he was fast asleep, that must be good news no?!

It's dh's turn to sleep with him tonight. We've had nightly accidents for a long time that he doesn't wake from so we take turns sleeping in with him. It's not a bloody joke all this is it?

My friend's daughter had chronic constipation from when she was a baby. She was always on movicol paediatric. She was 7 before she was properly investigated for it and diagnosed gluten intolerant but not coeliac. A gluten free diet significantly improved her symptoms to the point she no longer needed movicol. The reason she was investigated in the end had nothing to do with the constipation directly but due to the fact that she was still wetting at night. That is common with chronic constipation as a PP said as all the nerve signals get messed up and the bladder gets squashed so that they can't tell that they need to go (she was a bugger to daytime toilet train too and ate like a bird). So the nightly accidents may be related too. Now that he is on the path to diagnosis treatment and given enough time for everything to heal, you should end up in a much better place. P.s. your life sounds amazing. I hope that your new employers are understanding.

@prawnsworld

True

@ahhgoongoongoonhaveacupoftea why you're being allowed to post spiteful comments on a thread about a child's health I'm not sure. Or why you'd want to do it. I thought mumnset didn't allow goading posts like this.

You must be pretty bored or unkind or both.

@Brenna24 he tested negative for celiacs but I've got a nagging feeling about gluten if I'm honest.

I think you can just have a gluten test

We just had a call from the doctor saying his white blood cell count is pretty high (14.5) and his creatinine level is low and his ast liver enzymes are high.

I need to go back to discuss it.

Now I'm losing my mind.

There's some really good advice given in this kind of thing. Hang fire someone will be along.

I don’t have anything to offer but a bit of a hand hold.

When are you going to see the doctor?

Low or erratic creatinine levels are another symptom of mitochondrial disfunction. Sorry to sound like a broken record, but they should really do some genetic testing.