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Trump and the Giant Impeachment. Trump thread 97

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AcrossthePond55 · 31/10/2019 18:23

With credit to Stephen Colbert (and Roald Dahl) for the title.

Vote taken, public House hearings to begin. Here we gooooooo!!!

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 21/12/2019 22:38

Anyone who thinks Collins will finally find some moral fortitude and put country first is going to be disappointed.

Susan Collins set to play pivotal role in impeachment drama
thehill.com/homenews/senate/475579-susan-collins-set-to-play-pivotal-role-in-impeachment-drama

PerkingFaintly · 21/12/2019 22:46

Oh goodness, no.

I don't expect Collins to do anything other than follow the party line – after a long tease where she mops up the energy of campaigners by being coy and letting them kid themselves she might put conscience or country above party.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 22/12/2019 08:01

Just popping in to say a brief "hello" as I am still mostly too depressed by the state of both the unions on either side of the Atlantic to want to think about these things any more. (I was in England during the most recent GE. Friday 13th it was indeed. The daughter's graduation celebrations went kaput the minute the exit polls were announced - she and her friends couldn't believe the extent of the disaster for Labour.)
Anyhow, the thing which has prompted my visit is this headline:
"Trump will resign if high-ranking aides are forced to testify in Senate impeachment trial: former administration official" www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trump-will-resign-if-high-ranking-aides-are-forced-to-testify-in-senate-impeachment-trial-former-administration-official/#.Xf5QLrOf6SQ.twitter I'm living in cloud cuckoo land, amn't I? It's never going to happen, is it?

PerkingFaintly · 22/12/2019 11:17

Yeah, I read that and went "It's never going to happen."

The former administration official is Scaramucci, who doesn't have the best grasp on reality. I mean, he might be correct that Trump couldn't survive as president if Mulvaney, Bolton, Giuliani, Pompeo testified truthfully under oath on national television.

But Trump resigning is about as likely as Giuliani telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

I don't know how the others would behave under oath: might depend if they could do a Sondland and unhitch their chariots from Trump.

Lweji · 22/12/2019 11:22

Nixon only resigned when he lost support from GOP.

RhinoskinhaveI · 22/12/2019 11:26

What would it take for them to stop supporting trump though?

chillykiwi · 22/12/2019 11:30

He'd probably have to be a Jimmy Saville or something equally distasteful.

Lweji · 22/12/2019 11:34

Very bad polls for 2020, both Congress and Presidential elections, I imagine.

Roussette · 22/12/2019 12:37

I've been away and catching up. Thanks for the laugh from our troll, very amusing.

The White House is getting its priorities right obviously... Shock. I would've thought they had one hundred and one more pressing issues than lightbulbs and knocking Obama, but what do I know...

The White House
@WhiteHouse
If you like your lightbulbs, you can keep your lightbulbs! The Obama Admin tried to limit Americans to buying more-expensive LED bulbs for their homes—but thanks to President
@realDonaldTrump
, go ahead and decorate your house with whatever lights you want.

Roussette · 22/12/2019 12:38

Next minute it'll be toilet flushing,... oh hang on, he's done that one Grin

Lweji · 22/12/2019 12:53

Nancy Pelosi keeps her present for DJT to herself. And the PBS Democratic Debate. It's cold and it's open, it's SNL.

CrissmussMockers · 22/12/2019 13:13

Talk of a divide on the (cough) christian right: The Baptists are getting uneasy about unequivocal support for a foul-mouthed, false witness bearing, covetous, adulterous, money-worshipping, prostitute-hiring, biblically illiterate actual illiterate.

The Pentecostalists are just fine, though.

YouretheChristmasCarcass · 22/12/2019 18:27

Light bulbs and toilet flushing. They really are getting desperate to find reasons to support that imbecile, aren't they.

Scrotus; "Vote for me and you'll only have to flush once"

Me; "Yeah well, maybe when I vote for I'll have to double flush, but you'll be IN the toilet when I do!"

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 22/12/2019 21:07

Why is it anything to do with Trump anyway? Surely the water-pressure in a state would be a state concern not a Presidential one? Ditto light-bulbs; why is it his business rather than a state-level concern, and are they still making the incandescents that Trump is so keen on promoting? LED ones are so much better and cheaper to use that I'm surprised the USA is that backward.

lionheart · 22/12/2019 21:18

Transcript of Trump's speech thing. Xmas Smile

edition.cnn.com/2019/12/19/politics/donald-trump-michigan-rally-impeachment/index.html

cozietoesie · 22/12/2019 22:38

Any of them for sure - but Bolton?

lionheart · 22/12/2019 22:47

www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/12/donald-trump-anti-semitic-remarks

'“A lot of you are in the real estate business, because I know you very well. You’re brutal killers, not nice people at all,” he said. “But you have to vote for me—you have no choice. You’re not gonna vote for Pocahontas, I can tell you that. You’re not gonna vote for the wealth tax. Yeah, let’s take 100% of your wealth away!” (It feels beside the point that neither Elizabeth Warren nor any other Democratic candidate has proposed a 100% wealth tax.) He continued: “Some of you don’t like me. Some of you I don’t like at all, actually. And you’re going to be my biggest supporters because you’re going to be out of business in about 15 minutes if they get it. So I don’t have to spend a lot of time on that.”'

cozietoesie · 22/12/2019 23:02

Businessmen.........

lionheart · 22/12/2019 23:41

www.nytimes.com/2019/12/21/us/politics/trump-impeachment-republicans.html

'Interviews with current and former Republican lawmakers as well as party strategists, many of whom requested anonymity so as not to publicly cross the president, suggest that many elected officials are effectively faced with two choices. They can vote with their feet by retiring — and a remarkable 40 percent of Republican members of Congress have done so or have been defeated at the ballot box since Mr. Trump took office.'

cozietoesie · 22/12/2019 23:46

40?

lionheart · 23/12/2019 00:11

A similar theme.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/22/trump-impeachment-republican-party-congress

'If there is a political price to be paid by Democrats for taking on Trump, Republicans were determined to exact it. But in the process, they revealed themselves to be prisoners of a wounded, erratic leader known for demanding loyalty but not famous for repaying it. As the impeachment unfolded, it led to a party heading into the 2020 election never more obedient to Trump.'

lionheart · 23/12/2019 00:22

A rather conservative outfit.

www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2019/12/31/four-tests-for-impeachment/#slide-1

lionheart · 23/12/2019 10:26

More accounts.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-golf-again-mar-a-lago-118-million_n_5dfe5f85e4b05b08bab65fad?ri18n=true

'President Donald Trump has pushed his taxpayer-funded golf tab past $118 million on his 26th visit to Mar-a-Lago, his for-profit resort in Palm Beach, Florida, with a Saturday visit to his course in neighboring West Palm Beach.

The new total is the equivalent of 296 years of the $400,000 presidential salary that his supporters often boast that he is not taking.

And of that $118.3 million, at least several million has gone into Trump’s own cash registers, as Secret Service agents, White House staff and other administration officials stay and eat at his hotels and golf courses.'

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