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Trump and the Giant Impeachment. Trump thread 97

980 replies

AcrossthePond55 · 31/10/2019 18:23

With credit to Stephen Colbert (and Roald Dahl) for the title.

Vote taken, public House hearings to begin. Here we gooooooo!!!

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 17/12/2019 23:20

I do not believe that Trump wrote that.

Far too long, far too grammatical, far too reasoned (thought the reasoning is rubbish, it is there).

PerkingFaintly · 17/12/2019 23:44

Welcoming and sustaining Brew and Cake for all.Smile

We've slowed down rather, from the weariness of the long slog. But we said back in 2016 that it would be a marathon, not a sprint, so that's OK.

lionheart · 17/12/2019 23:48

I think some poor bugger had to take his rants and mix it with legalese.

lionheart · 18/12/2019 00:31

WH lawyers left out of the loop on this one but Stephen Miller helped.

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YouretheChristmasCarcass · 18/12/2019 04:25

I couldn't make it past the 2nd paragraph of Trump's letter before my dinner threatened to make a second appearance!

The rally tonight was well attended and enthusiastic!

The vote is tomorrow. From a Politico article (times EST):

^"The whole House will gather to begin debating on two articles of impeachment at 9 a.m. But don't expect a result too soon after. Members will have six hours to debate, and the final vote is predicted to take place between 6:30 and 7:30 p.m."

www.politico.com/news/2019/12/17/impeachment-trump-time-vote-086711

TheClaws · 18/12/2019 05:32

Rick Gates, Trump’s campaign manager, was sentenced today. (This is from The Hill - more Conservative of late - so I must apologise for the interesting slant on the sentencing. There’s an even more fascinating take higher up on The Hill’s homepage that is more fiery.)

thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/474896-ex-trump-adviser-gates-sentenced-to-45-days-in-jail-report

cozietoesie · 18/12/2019 11:35

I agree questions.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 18/12/2019 11:40

I didn't realise people could choose when they went to prison in the USA. What if Gates never gets round to deciding it is convenient for him to be in prison for a few days?

"Judge Amy Berman Jackson, who was appointed by former President Obama, ruled that Gates could choose to serve the jail sentence intermittently and when it's convenient for him."

cozietoesie · 18/12/2019 12:06

Sorry. Questions.

cozietoesie · 18/12/2019 14:53

Oh - and welcome ethelfleda.😻

cozietoesie · 18/12/2019 16:10

Ha.

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YouretheChristmasCarcass · 18/12/2019 16:12

Yes, welcome ethelfleda

The debate is ongoing. Repugs using many and sundry delaying tactics, all being voted down.

Pelosi not chairing the debate. It's being chaired by Colorado Democrat, Diana DeGette. Per MSNBC; "DeGette was chosen for the role because she is a master at presiding, is the Democrats' toughest speaker pro tem and has been preparing for this debate for weeks, a senior Democratic aide said".

Many female Dems wearing black to reflect that this is a 'sombre day' in our history.

YouretheChristmasCarcass · 18/12/2019 16:26

Asking the 'serving one's sentence intermittently' isn't at all common. It's normally used for lesser non-violent crimes where the person has 'outside' commitments that cannot be met by others (childcare/family duties) and/or would suffer 'great loss' if jailed (loss of job/loss of business).

I read once of someone convicted of a DUI who checked into the jail after work then got up and checked out in the morning to go to work every day. This was because he would have lost his job otherwise 🤷🏼‍♀️. It's also been used when alternative childcare/care for an ill (as in very ill) family member isn't available. It does take longer to complete your sentence that way.

IMHO, Gates must have provided a helluva lot of extremely valuable information to get the 'intermittent' sentence as he obviously has the 'wherewithal' to pay for alternative child/illness care. Although I understand that his wife has been diagnosed with Breast Cancer, so the sentence could be on completely compassionate grounds.

YouretheChristmasCarcass · 18/12/2019 16:31

Oh and a bit of tooting my own horn.....I made the local news last night during the rally. They used 3 clips of my interview with the reporter who was on scene. Family says I acquitted myself quite well.

lionheart · 18/12/2019 17:34

Well done. Smile

I think Gates was rather keen to co-operate with Mueller when push came to shove. Grin

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 18/12/2019 17:56

Bravo, Carcass! and thanks for explaining. I don't think it's an option here: a prison sentence means you go pretty-much immediately to prison, and if for some reason it seems inappropriate to imprison you than the judge sentences you to some other penalty instead. I could be wrong....

YouretheChristmasCarcass · 18/12/2019 20:57

4 pm, the debating continues.

YouretheChristmasCarcass · 18/12/2019 21:11

It is expected that the earliest the vote will take place is approximately 6.30pm EST. The 6 hour debate period began at approx 12 noon EST. It can run longer than 6 hours depending on, ahem, 'interruptions' by various Representatives.

lionheart · 18/12/2019 21:32

It's a shameful display. Sad

ListeningQuietly · 18/12/2019 22:05

From Today's New York Times

’Twas the eve of impeachment, when all through the House
No Republicans wavered, each last one a louse.

The articles were drafted by Democrats with care
In hopes that a conscience would soon bloom there.

We pundits were tossing all steamed in our beds,
While Trump’s certain acquittal danced in our heads.

And I in frustration, feeling all solemn,
Wished I could capture my woe in a column,

When out on the web there arose such a clatter,
I signed in to Twitter to see what was the matter.

And there I beheld him, the master of lies,
Weaving fresh falsehoods, to no one’s surprise.

He savaged the Bidens, he smeared Adam Schiff,
And cycled through villains in a furious jiff,

Not to mention distractions, like the teeth of the Speaker.
Could a “leader” be cruder, could his morals be weaker?

So now he’s a dentist, in his all-knowing ways?
I prayed for deliverance one of these days.

When what to my cynical eyes did appear
But a raft of excuses pulled by mangy reindeer,

With a weasel-eyed driver, so meek and so zany,
I knew in a moment he must be Mulvaney.

More shameless than con men, the sycophants came,
And Trump gloated, so bloated, and called them by name:

“Now, Rudy! Now, Jared! Now, Lindsey and Mitch!
Please fly this democracy into a ditch!

It is how you will save me. It is how I prevail.
Or else I will join poor Paul in the jail.

That’s the toll of a presidency ended too soon,
So you must sing along to my favorite tune:

‘It’s a witch hunt! A hoax!’ Those are lyrics for me.
That’s the verse, that’s the chorus, for eternity.”

He was dressed in a necktie, from his jowls to his soles.
He had tanned beyond tanning. Imagine the moles.

His hair, how it swirled! His legs, how they splayed!
On such fishy foundations was his confidence laid.

And we couldn’t stop looking — not his fans, not his foes.
That was what he was after: the show of all shows.

Its plot strained belief. Its appeal tested reason.
Still it was soaring toward a second season.

The economy roared. The Democrats whimpered.
Vladimir chortled. Emmanuel simpered.

In the bag that Trump carried, he had goodies galore:
Lower taxes, the Dow, right-wing judges and more.

They weren’t for the many, they favored the few,
But that was obscured by the smoke that he blew.

All was fog, all was mist, all was boast, all was fiction,
As he hid his true airs with bad diet and diction.

He could do as he wanted and never know fear,
For an elf — and a savior! — named Barr hovered near.

And then there was Tucker and of course Hannity
To put an extra-fine gloss on insanity.

What great luck to discover a country so riven
You could smash it and rule it if suitably driven.

You could summon the Russians, you could bully Ukraine,
Just as long as you made “It’s fake news!” your refrain.

I cringed as I watched him and cried for us all,
Our values, our futures hijacked by his gall.

A last bid to preserve them was cause to impeach
But his party’s corruption put him beyond reach.

So then why all his thrashing? His howls of dejection?
It was just a performance for the next election.

It brought more donations. It rallied the base.
You could see, if you looked, a clear smirk on his face.

If you listened, you heard it: a lilt in his voice.
In drama like this, he would always rejoice.

So as history scarred him, he could nonetheless yell,
“Merry TrumpMas to all! I’m the king of this hell.”

AutumnCrow · 18/12/2019 23:57

@ListeningQuietly that's awesome stuff from the NY Times

YouretheChristmasCarcass · 19/12/2019 01:04

OMG, that's brilliant!!!

YouretheChristmasCarcass · 19/12/2019 01:11

Voting starting now. 15 minute vote