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Is liam Payne co parenting?

196 replies

Upordown · 26/10/2019 23:17

Happy to be flamed but when you are wealthy, yet admit you don't see your baby/young child for weeks, you are not co parenting? Everyone has their own priorities and ambitions, but at least one parent needs to prioritise ambitions around their child? I'm not saying it's always the mum, but don't you are not parenting if you see your child once a month or so...

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SleepyKat · 27/10/2019 07:49

Is Liam the one who also had a kid with an American fan after a one night stand?

Waxonwaxoff0 · 27/10/2019 07:50

He's not a child. He's 26. Same age as my ex when our DS was born, and I was 22.

He seems very immature though and I agree with pp that Cheryl wanted a baby, I think she thought her clock was ticking and anyone would do.

They're in a weird industry though. They both praise each other quite a bit on social media and neither one seems bitter. Maybe she's glad he's not around so much so she can do things her own way. Or maybe it does get on her nerves. Who knows? Unless she publicly speaks about it, I can't get het up.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 27/10/2019 07:51

@SleepyCat that was Louis Tomlinson.

Dontforgetyourbrolly · 27/10/2019 07:51

Some men never grow up sadly, and I don't know why. I'd like to say they have been over indulged by their mothers but that is probably not true in most cases.
My ex couldn't face time our 5 year old ds the other day because His " head wasn't in the right place " due to him being dumped by his latest gf . This is a 38 year old man dear readers!
Hmmm if I waited til my head was in the right place i may not speak to my son until he is 24 years old haha

Blueoasis · 27/10/2019 07:57

I know of a guy a year older than him with 4 kids and a really good job. He has no excuse, he's just a shit dad.

Iamnotagoddess · 27/10/2019 07:58

What about forces men and women who go off for months on end and can’t even speak to their children?

Does that make them shit parents too?

Sotiredofthislife · 27/10/2019 07:58

My sympathy is reserved for the lone parents who have no money and no support

And the child? I am not sure that all the money required for a decent upbringing will make up for a shit dad, will it? The sense of not being good enough, the being let down regularly, that’s exactly the same, money or no money.

I say that as a single parent with no help financially from the ex. I have managed to give my children a decent upbringing. Their shit father, although he sees them regularly, has had a massive impact on them.

Money helps, but it isn’t everything.,

Samplesss · 27/10/2019 08:11

What about forces men and women who go off for months on end and can’t even speak to their children?Does that make them shit parents too

And as we get told time and time again, 'it was your decision to have children with him, you knew he would be away a lot'. So I would like to send the same sentiment to Cheryl, whether they were together or not still, due to his job this was always going to be the case. Not saying it makes it right, but we we always get told, she knew what she was getting into (rolls eyes). Perhaps though it works for them?

Avenilson · 27/10/2019 08:14

she is happy to keep him at arms length for osmeone who seems to know her so well you aren't very empathetic. Or is it just another assumption that as she's the woman, it's all her fault

WTF are you on about. What is her fault? That he is not there for his kid? How do you know he is not?

kmammamalto · 27/10/2019 08:22

I was literally thinking this yesterday. It's like he wants everyone to feel sorry for him. Poor him, he's so rich and successful he absolutely HAD to fly out on his only child's birthday to begin his huge tour.. no way he could have arranged it differently.
He's a shit dad and showing himself up massively. I do think Cheryl made a mistake having a baby with someone so immature compared to where she was with her life but that doesn't excuse him not stepping up.
He's a disgrace.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 27/10/2019 08:28

@Iamnotagoddess not the same situation though is it? That's their job though and they don't have a choice. Liam Payne has a choice, he's not in the forces, he certainly has the money and resources to take regular flights back and forth to see his child whenever he wants.

Upordown · 27/10/2019 08:31

He sounds like a loving dad to Bear and talks well of Cheryl, which is good for the family. It's just that they both have similar jobs. She fits her job around Bear (from what I've read) and Liam fits in Bear around his job, which means not seeing him for weeks at a time. I just think women get more critised than men in this scenario.

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Iamnotagoddess · 27/10/2019 08:34

@Waxonwaxoff0

Does he have a choice? If he is promoting a new album he does what his record company tells him to do - it’s huge money,

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 27/10/2019 08:37

Iamnotagoddess his child isn’t in school,
Why couldn’t he travel with him

SimonJT · 27/10/2019 08:38

@Waxonwaxoff0 If he did that his record label would likely drop him, ‘spare’ days on tour is also where the majority of money is made from tv appearances etc. It isn’t uncommon to spend an entire day doing interviews over the phone with magazines, newspapers etc.

But as it’s part of promotion it wouldn’t be his money, in most cases it would be the record labels and he would receive a certain % once all tour costs are covered.

Iamnotagoddess · 27/10/2019 08:39

Maybe his mother didn’t want him to take him, disrupting his life and routine when it isn’t necessary.

Pinkblueberry · 27/10/2019 08:40

What interview was this?

EntirelyAnonymised · 27/10/2019 08:43

Useless waste of skin.

dayswithaY · 27/10/2019 08:53

I think Cheryl was quite smart. She had just dumped a useless husband (who presumably she could have had a baby with). Quickly moved onto a young, handsome millionaire and probably didn't care if it lasted or not, he ticked the right boxes. Her last husband pursued her for a settlement I seem to remember, so imagine what he would do if they had had a child together? Or if she had picked some penniless backing dancer. She was being practical, she knew Liam would never sell a story on her or try to get half her money. They live in an unusual world and she got what she wanted. Things will change in a few years when he settles down and starts a new family. Then we will see Family Man Liam and his amicable understanding with Cheryl will all be over. That's when Bear will suffer, caught between the two. Right now I'm sure he's fine.

Sagradafamiliar · 27/10/2019 09:17

Childish prat.

CarolDanvers · 27/10/2019 09:20

Do they really think that he was happy to become a father & never really see the child?

I think a significant number of men are perfectly happy with this set up. Hence the number of posts we see regarding reckless fathers, right here on this forum.

ChilledBee · 27/10/2019 09:30

I thought the whole thing was weird from the get go. She's a bit creepy when it comes to guys.

reginafelangee · 27/10/2019 09:30

Some folk just can't help putting the woman down whilst defending the man.

Even when the man himself admits he only sees his son now and again and she is a brilliant mum.

Oh no she was just using him for sperm and was too old. He was just a child who was manipulated and didn't know what he was doing.

Evil manipulating woman. Poor wee snowflake boy.

😱😱😱

Misogyny is alive and thriving in 2019.

ChilledBee · 27/10/2019 09:56

No I just think that anyone who met a child of 14 when they were 24 and then went onto have sex and conceive with said child over the next decade is all types of dodgy. If Simon Cowell met a teenager and did that,he'd be classed as a paedo.

Pukkatea · 27/10/2019 10:00

I have it on good authority that Bear isn't actually his child...

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