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AIBU to have expected information from birth mother?

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FeetZelet · 24/10/2019 16:36

Lurker & grateful beneficiary of advice, first time poster...

Looking for thoughts or experiences to help me understand the response I have received from my birth mother. Background - adopted at 8 weeks in 1970's, legally no access to identifying information from my adoption file but publicly available birth records & internet have led me to my birth mother & her family, they have some public profile. As was the norm, my father's name is not recorded on BC. It is on file but not available under data protection.

I am seeking genetic & medical information and wrote to a business address to seek to engage with BM 7 hopefully to progress to corresponding & exchange of info. My first very brief letter received no response for months so I wrote a second in which I asked for the name of my birth father and nothing else information wise. Gave some background info about my own life in the hope that this was a more human approach and that the details might have been of interest or of comfort but did not outright state she was my BM in case someone else read the letters.

Have now received a short reply, no name, no address included, some weeks later, stating that there was no information to be given and questioning my incorrect approach & the information I had illegally! I am shocked that a mother (she has multiple other children) could be so harsh and accusatory about something she knows to be true. I am also ashamed of having made contact after many decades to be rejected and made feel that I caused the problem. There is no possibility of mistaken i.d., also, some family members are physically very similar to me.

AIBU to expect that she should have replied to my first letter to state 'do not contact' me rather than risking a further approach? Also many months later, to basically tear me a new one for persisting? Feeling lost in this and would welcome other opinions.

OP posts:
Imustbemad00 · 24/10/2019 17:22

@MrsDimmond Neither is wrong. The birth mother has a right to refuse whatever the reasons. The point I was making is that the op is not wrong for wanting or expecting to be able to request this information. She has a right to want to know and try to find out.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 24/10/2019 17:29

It may just be that your BM has shut down and boxed up that part of her life and doesn’t have the capacity to deal with it anymore. You couldn’t have known that prior to contacting her but sadly you may have to accept it now.
Flowers

Soon2BeMumof3 · 24/10/2019 17:30

YANBU- my heart is breaking for you.

Thanks you deserve better OP. I'm sorry that anyone is being treated like this.

Do you have a good relationship with your adoptive family?

MrsDimmond · 24/10/2019 17:32

The point I was making is that the op is not wrong for wanting or expecting to be able to request this information.

That is not what you posted at all. This I agree with.

But you said people were entitled to know ...

DriftingLeaves · 24/10/2019 17:33

I'm sorry that you are hurting, OP.

I think you are being a bit U. Your mother may have been promised confidentiality when she had you adopted. A school friend of mine gave a baby up for adoption in the late 60s but only because she was promised total confidentiality.

She is now living in fear of a knock on the door which she feels will destroy her life.

She became pregnant in the most dreadful of circumstances and only continued the pregnancy because her priest persuaded her to have the baby and promised her the baby would never be told who she was. Now she wishes she'd had an abortion.

Those women who were promised confidentiality are entitled to have that respected. Women giving up babies today know they may be traced, back then they were promised it wouldn't happen.

I wish she had felt able to help you but do understand why she couldn't, I hope you can forgive her.

Barbie222 · 24/10/2019 17:36

I'm very sorry to read your story Thanks
As an alternative way forward, perhaps you don't need info from your birth mother to find out your genetics / medical info? There are many companies who could help you. It's not a substitute, but it might help you find an alternative focus.

WhatTiggersDoBest · 24/10/2019 17:36

YANBU. I suspect she's in a lot of pain about what happened, either because she wanted you and had to effectively grieve for your loss, or because she didn't and this was her only solution available at the time.
My grandad reacted like this when I found him but in time he came around although our relationship is distant.
She has your details now, and maybe one day she will get in touch and explain, but maybe she won't.
One question, did she actually know you were adopted or did she get told you died? I know this happened in some of the homes but IDK how recently. Because you might literally be back from the dead from her POV which would be a bit of a shock.
[fllowers]

Babysharkisanearworm · 24/10/2019 17:38

Be tempted to send one last time keeping it business like and acknowledging her desire for anonymity. Explain you are only seeking hereditary medical information such as cancer, stroke, heart issues etc. In order to protect and screen both yourself and your children (if you have any). Also mention the data you have found is in the public domain and no illegal activity has taken place to obtain it. Acknowledge again her desire to remain anonymous and thank her for her time in reading your letter. Best regards.

beethebee · 24/10/2019 17:39

Oh, OP, this is one of those sad situations where nobody is BU.

Of course you're not U to want to make contact and know more information, and BM isn't U to not want that to happen.

You making contact may have really dragged up a lot of awful memories for her, and she may be doing what she thinks is right for both of you here. She's not necessarily being entirely selfish. (Although of course she may be)

But what if her family is awful and she thinks you're better off out of it? What if your BFather is a really unpleasant character, or in prison, or even related to your BM? Maybe she really thinks you're better off not knowing.

Drabarni · 24/10/2019 17:44

I'm so sorry my love, this happened to my adoptive sister, who when she didn't want to know put a note in the local paper asking for her bm to contact etc. So, her little secret was out Grin
I think it's awful the way some bm treat the kids they gave up.
We understand they've moved on, but no need to be nasty, I believe they owe us, if just a brief letter.

MrsDimmond · 24/10/2019 17:46

who when she didn't want to know put a note in the local paper asking for her bm to contact etc. So, her little secret was out

Whilst I feel desperately sorry for your dsis, this was a horrible thing to do Sad Who knows the true circumstances of the birth mother

Drabarni · 24/10/2019 17:47

OP, go through ancestry you don't need anything from her, you may find your bf too.
I'm doing this but wasn't interested in the health side, just the dna geographically.
I found 40 first cousins and 80 second and have over 80k DNA matches.

Pcosmama · 24/10/2019 17:49

OP this sounds really upsetting for you. I can't empathise as I'm not adopted but I do have sympathy for your situation and I would likely feel very hurt and rejected.

I think others have made good points about your birth mother's situation being unknown and the suggestion that a letter could have come from a partner or birth sibling, for example.

I think it is very very unfortunate that you won't get the information you feel you need, but I do think for your own mental health you must try to find away to accept and step away from this.

As for feeling guilt in case you caused her pain, don't. You can't know that this is the case and the situation, whatever it is, isn't of your making. Guilt is a waste of emotion, it changed nothing.

I hope you can move on from this shitty situation and remember all of the family you do have who love you very much, I'm sure.

Drabarni · 24/10/2019 17:50

MrsDiamond

She was a right snotty nosed bitch and when dsis got i touch said she would inform solicitors if she contacted her again.
There was no need.
Mine weren't the best family but were welcoming even though they admitted I wasn't wanted for even a second.
We don't expect a new mum, we have had much better being adopted, tbh. But everyone has a right to know where they came from and their father.

BigFatLiar · 24/10/2019 17:50

Sorry to hear of your experience. There doesn't seem to be an awful lot to be done, at leat not on Mumsnet. Is there any place you can go for proper advice. All we have here is speculation. Doesn't seem your BM is enthused with the idea of meeting you or of giving any info. Sad, but we don't know the circumstances. Also sad is it stops you finding out about your father, for all we know he may not know you exist or he may know and wonder whatever happened to the daughter he never had the chance to know.

Without the information from your birth mother its all speculation.

candative · 24/10/2019 17:51

If you get your DNA tested, you will be able to get genetic health information and will also automatically connect to any family members who test. For all you know, your dad or some half siblings may be on there already. I follow a group called DD Social on Facebook and lots of adopted people are there trying to figure out who their family is.

Jellybeansincognito · 24/10/2019 17:53

I recently contacted my mums birth mother- my mum was also adopted from 6 weeks old (I thought from birth before hand- they never took them from birth).

Did you have any advice in regards to adoption agencies before you made contact? It was heavily advised to me to not do it, because it can cause a lot of havoc and upset in someone’s life doing this without understanding the background- due to rape, and other awful circumstances.
Also her health may not be good, and you never know who opened the letter.

When I wrote to my mums birth mum I simply said ‘hello (name) I’m writing in reference to a person called (my mums name) who you briefly met in (birth year) if you’d like any information please contact me on (my number).

I did it like this because I didn’t know her circumstance, health or situation. It can’t be easy for anyone to give away a child and I think you’re too quick to feel rejected. You don’t know what storm you’ve created in her life with your letter that could have upset countless relatives who could be completely unaware and now upset and hurt about this.

Please give it time and don’t feel rejected and hurt.

Best wishes with your future contact x

Drabarni · 24/10/2019 17:55

Ancestry is good I'm on there too much, but in all my 80 odd thousand matches I haven't found one for my dad yet.
There's something that ties all my mothers side genetically so anyone else would stand out like a sore thumb.
I live in hope I may find him one day. Until then I have lots to keep me going, I doubt I'll ever get through all the matches.

Scott72 · 24/10/2019 17:57

I feel for the birth mothers here, who have dealt with the trauma of giving up a child by the assumption that they would not have to contact their child in the future.

Jellybeansincognito · 24/10/2019 17:59

Me too @Scott72 they’re not given any information at all and can’t even find their children because they aren’t ever given their adopted names.

When I called an agency to contact my mums mum who I’d already found, they wanted £500 for the privilege of being a mediator. It’s disgusting tbh.

FeetZelet · 24/10/2019 17:59

The replies have me sobbing, I'm so grateful for this safe space and really helpful suggestions too. Was thinking of it but will definitely do DNA testing now plus look into an independent type intermediary to see if they could request medical info.

My underlying belief has always been that the circumstances of my birth would be awful for my BM, having to give up a baby would have been horrific so I avoided contact on that basis. I'm done now, BM has my address so contact is in her power. I wouldn't contact her family whilst she is alive either.

Just to say that I did have a fantastic Mother.

OP posts:
ElizaDee · 24/10/2019 18:00

I'd turn up on her doorstep.

Drabarni · 24/10/2019 18:02

Scott

They don't have to contact, or meet, or even show they care tbh.
Yes, some bm didn't want to give their children up and the pain must be terrible, but others couldn't wait, believe me.

How long does it take to write a letter, even send it through a solicitor or not include contact details, but at least tell us who are fathers are, and give us some closure.

If you aren't adopted you have no idea what it's like, not knowing who you really are.

MrsDimmond · 24/10/2019 18:04

id turn up on her doorstep WTF ElizaDee
Thank god OP has more maturity and empathy than you!

Im baffled by the tiny minority who are outraged at the lacknof empathy from BMs but exhibit none in return. Its a massively complex issue

Drabarni · 24/10/2019 18:04

OP, if I can offer any support or tips with your search, I'm not an expert but have been doing this for about 30 years now. Grin Much quicker now with the internet though.
Please pm if I can help, or if you just fancy a chat.

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