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CF vet???

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Millionpoundvet · 22/10/2019 10:33

NC for this because it's very outing and I'd rather it didn't follow me around. For ease I'll refer to my friend as VF.

This is a bit awkward. One of my very, very good friends is a vet, she owns and runs two practices and has an impressive amount of qualifications; far more than your average vet. I'm not sure what they are, specialisms in some things.

I decided to move my pets to her practice because of the friendship, her expertise and I wasn't entirely happy with the old vet. She very kindly allowed my dd (12) to go and do a few hours of work experience, my animals have been well looked after whenever I've taken them. My kitten was neutered, vaccinated and chipped there, and they spotted and dealt with a potential abscess on his tail. All great.

I have an old lady cat, she's 14, still sprightly but had got very, very thin, was messing around the house and had moments of confusion. VF had been to my house a few times, cuddled the cat and I'd asked about what could be wrong with her. VF could feel a couple of thyroid lumps and suggested that she have an op to remove the thyroid gland. I booked her in and delivered her to the surgery. I didn't hear anything for a week or so, but didn't mind, I assumed VF was doing what needed to be done. I bumped into her in the pub a couple of days after that, and she tells me that the thyroid tests have come back as normal. She now suspects that it's lymphoma. She says the cat is too poorly to come home yet, she will discharge her soon.

Again, we hear nothing for a week or so. I ring the practice to ask about what's going on and I'm told "Oh, I'm not sure, it's VF dealing with this. Can I ask her to give you a ring?" No problem. However, no phone call either. Again, I bump into VF socially (lots of the same friends) and enquire about my cat. She doesn't have lymphoma now and is ready to come home. VF says something vague about the cat having a liver infection. Along the way I've asked her to keep an eye on the bill and tell me when it's gone over a certain amount (£600 quoted for thyroid op). If I ask her directly, she says "It's still in 3 figures."

Anyway (sorry, this is really long! Didn't want to dripfeed), I arranged to collect my cat yesterday and I am greeted with a bill of £1,250. I was absolutely gobsmacked. She's billed me for that huge amount, despite:

Cat didn;t have or need a thyroid op.

Cat didn't have lymphoma.

Cat has had no surgical procedures at all.

Cat has had a few blood tests and basically been left sitting there for three weeks, whilst I was under the impression that she was being treated for cancer!

I asked for a breakdown of the bill and was told they didn't have it ready but that they can post it to me.

Awkwardly, it was my friend doing the discharge and I didn't want to challenge her at the time, because I wasn't sure if the fee was a fair one, and I didn;t want to accuse her of something she hadn't done, so I paid the bill and left.

I came home to my partner (who is a GP) and he says that we've been taken for a ride by VF and he's furious about the bill. Now that I've had time to process it, I'm furious too.

But what should I do?? If I go back and complain it will make things very awkward between VF and I and I do genuinely like her. Or shall I just chalk it up to experience and move my pets elsewhere? I feel like I can't say nothing, but I also don;t want to overreact. Or have I done something wrong along the way which has allowed her to bill this much??

Opinions please :)

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TokyoSushi · 22/10/2019 11:31

I came on to say 'why did you just leave your act there and only make casual enquiries about her progress?' But I see that's already been asked!

TokyoSushi · 22/10/2019 11:31

**Cat!!

category12 · 22/10/2019 11:32

Just bizarre that you haven't been chasing up what was happening with your cat more, and are surprised by the massive bill after your cat being at the vets for 3 weeks.

On what world would a vet bill still be under 3 figures after that length of time?

CleopatraTomato · 22/10/2019 11:32

Agree with most others. Next step - get breakdown so you know what's what. Pay bill in full. Immediately.

That way you keep a friend.

Next time an animal needs treatment deal direct with the surgery by phone and e-mail, call every day for updates and running total of bill. And maybe get insurance.

cathpinc · 22/10/2019 11:33

But, at the same time, what sort of vet books the cat in for an operation on its thyroid without doing any tests first, then thinks it's got cancer, then thinks it's got a liver infection, then sends it home with a relatively clean bill of health - all without calling the client to update her on the possible outcomes?

If she's the practice owner, has she been delegating this to a very newly qualified vet, while telling you she's overseeing things as a social courtesy?

contrary13 · 22/10/2019 11:36

Have you considered the possibility of your elderly cat having FD? Feline Dementia is a very real thing - I lost a 22 year old cat to it earlier in the year, with his having been diagnosed by our vet at the age of 6 years. The messing outside of the litter tray coupled with "confusion" (does your cat stare at the walls/things you can't see?) sounds horribly familiar.

You did leave your cat there for 3 weeks however, so the bill is going to have to be paid. I had a kitten on an IV drip for 4 days, 11 years ago and it was round about £400, so they are expensive. Your cat was occupying a cage/crate in their "back room", needed feeding, cleaning out, reassuring... (we visited our kitten every day, but we knew that the nurses were also spending time cuddling, stroking every dog and cat in their ICU).

A 14 year old cat... you should have been in touch more, gone to visit, pulled them out of there. Have you not stopped to consider that your "CF Vet" is actually thinking "CF Owner"? Friendship is neither here, nor there. This is a living being who has spent 3 weeks somewhere it's not familiar with, being poked and prodded seemingly unnecessarily, and will undoubtedly no longer recognise you as its home/owner. If there's FD involved, too... I sincerely wish you good luck. When my 22 year old cat had a really bad day? I was the only one he didn't attempt to gouge with his claws.

Blueoasis · 22/10/2019 11:37

Accept that you should have done more and stay quiet. Dunno how you managed to not care that whole time about a pet, I had to be stopped from phoning the vet too much about my pet.

BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack · 22/10/2019 11:38

Not sure if I believe this, i mean who would leave their cat in the vets for three weeks without checking in daily and knowing exactly what treatment they were getting. Seems very bizarre [confused

Your poor cat if this is true. Boggles my mind.

LoobyLou1976 · 22/10/2019 11:39

Yes Cathpinc, this is what makes absolutely no sense at all and why there is something major missing from this story. When you say she is the owner of the practice OP, do you mean it is an independently owned vets of which she is the owner/partner, or is she a director of a corporate owned vets? What I'm getting at is that she could never have given you 'mates rates' if the practice is not actually her own, as prices are set and monitored by the corporate.
Lots of details need clarifying.

QueSera · 22/10/2019 11:40

I'm just shocked that you left your elderly cat there for weeks without properly chasing up what was happening - I'd be on the phone every day checking on her!
Also - I know it's done, but in future don't pay until you get an itemised bill. There's no reason why they couldn't have given you one there and then.
The bill is high, but vets are expensive - the 3wks boarding alone would be expensive, plus the tests. Let us know what the itemised bill says when you get it.
Also - best not to mix friendship and business.
Hope your kitty is ok OP. Our elderly gentleman cat recently got very thin, messing, confusion; our vet helped him have a last few good months with appetite stimulants and antibiotics, but ultimately his heart and liver were shutting down. Good luck OP x

Butterflybea · 22/10/2019 11:41

Why didn’t you phone daily to check on your cat????? It seems to me (sorry if I’m wrong) that you left your cat with the vet and didn’t bother so much with it because your friend was the vet? As I said sorry if I’m wrong about that but that’s what is appears. My dog was ill earlier this year and was in the vets for 4 nights and my bill was almost £2000!

Vet bills are expensive and it seems to me as if you have had a bargain for the care your cat has received and for the amount of time she was boarded at the vets.

viccat · 22/10/2019 11:43

None of this makes any sense. Hyperthyroidism is diagnosed with a blood test so the first step would have been for you to go in for an appointment for that with the cat, then wait for results, possibly try medication first and then consider options (for example the thyroidectomy operation).

Vets are usually reluctant to keep cats in any longer than necessary and it certainly costs a lot if they do. My senior cat used to need sedation for tests (she was a grumpy old lady) and just staying in at the vet's for an afternoon + having a blood test usually came to about £400... (luckily we had insurance!).

And, why would you not check up on your cat on a daily basis as any normal cat owner would do?! Not having any updates for a week sounds so strange.

Mydogmylife · 22/10/2019 11:43

Bill seems high for the level of apparent non treatment, but I'm another who can't understand your lack of contact , I'd have been on the phone every single day !

TatianaLarina · 22/10/2019 11:44

But, at the same time, what sort of vet books the cat in for an operation on its thyroid without doing any tests first, then thinks it's got cancer, then thinks it's got a liver infection, then sends it home with a relatively clean bill of health - all without calling the client to update her on the possible outcomes

This is all true and is getting lost in the incredulity at the OP’s attitude. It’s very dodgy, but if OP had been on the ball and had been less laissez faire about the poor cat it wouldn’t have been possible.

Cherrysoup · 22/10/2019 11:44

You left your cat at the vet for three weeks? That's batshit! Overnight and stitches for my dog was over £500 so I reckon you got off lightly. Bonkers to leave your cat there and not just go down and demand to see a vet, any vet about this! Three weeks!!

category12 · 22/10/2019 11:44

yep, tis all a nonsense.

TatianaLarina · 22/10/2019 11:46

Hyperthyroidism is diagnosed with a blood test so the first step would have been for you to go in for an appointment for that with the cat, then wait for results, possibly try medication first and then consider options (for example the thyroidectomy operation).

Yep. Medication alone may have sorted it - it has done with 2 hyperthyroid cats we have had, plus vets are reluctant to operate on older cats.

DarlingNikita · 22/10/2019 11:46

But, at the same time, what sort of vet books the cat in for an operation on its thyroid without doing any tests first, then thinks it's got cancer, then thinks it's got a liver infection, then sends it home with a relatively clean bill of health - all without calling the client to update her on the possible outcomes?

Oh yes, the vet has acted oddly, to say the very least. I'm not JUST putting the boot in to the OP about leaving the cat. Weird behaviour on both sides. BUT the vet is the (supposed) professional so should have taken the lead.

DishingOutDone · 22/10/2019 11:47

OP we need more info or this is going under a bridge: why did you leave your elderly cat in a vets surgery for 3 weeks - if its true you are lucky she didn't just die because of that, being left in a cage for 3 weeks?!

Is there something you aren't telling us?

QueSera · 22/10/2019 11:51

But, at the same time, what sort of vet books the cat in for an operation on its thyroid without doing any tests first, then thinks it's got cancer, then thinks it's got a liver infection, then sends it home with a relatively clean bill of health - all without calling the client to update her on the possible outcomes

In addition to OP's oddly unconcerned attitude towards her poor elderly, possibly-dying cat, the above is true. Is your friend really a vet OP? Surely even if not her, then the veterinary assistant/admin staff will be phoning clients with updates, getting approval for tests etc?

GabsAlot · 22/10/2019 11:51

She doesnt sound like a good vet tbh-no test for thyroid first which is a simple blood test then a cancer diagnosis -she does sound like shes done a number on you-but u didnt enquire abot it till you saw her socialy?

My cat was in for about 3 days i think and i phoned twice a day to see how she was

BeerandBiscuits · 22/10/2019 11:52

This is too weird. Hard to believe but what would be the point in making it all up?

AgathaF · 22/10/2019 11:53

Is this for real? You didn't enquire about your elderly cat for three weeks, apart from when you met your friend when out socialising?

If real then I think that 3 weeks inpatient care with some investigations, even without surgery or intensive treatment, is going to be expensive. Do you have pet insurance?

HowlinProwlin · 22/10/2019 11:54

This does sound odd on both sides tbh.

My vets ring me every evening if someones an in-patient, thats both my own local vets AND the hugely expensive specialist referral practice in Bristol.

If they didn't, I'd call them.

An animal staying as an in-patient would cost somewhere between £25 to £100 A DAY depending again whether thats a local vet or a specialist referral practice.

On the other hand I don't understand why your cat was an in patient at all, never mind for three weeks?!

TheHodgeoftheHedge · 22/10/2019 11:55

Yet another one here absolutely stunned that you seem to have left your cat for weeks with no questions asked.
When my animals have been held at the vets for treatment I've tried to see them twice a day as well as getting constant phone updates as soon as possible after surgery etc.

None of this adds up.