To ask for a brief history of netmums/mumsnet politics

[Springfern]

I keep reading about the Troubles on netmums, how mumsnet is becoming like netmums, and people referred to as netmum types.

I've never been on netmums and have only been here about a year. Can someone enlighten me on key differences...and these mysterious troubles?

They're unbearable
..sounds like slagging off to me. But I should have quoted that in my post to make it clear what I was responding to @NoDontLookAtMeImShy

Interesting that a lot of new joiners have come over from NM - I didn't know that. Are they responsible for the recent trend of cast members in threads being referred to by a range of initials?

Getting Netmums and MN mixed up is the best thing I ever did. I had PPD with DD and the health visitor recommended Netmums to have someone to talk to. I got mixed up and ended up here instead. I did look at Netmums later but I definitely got it right the first time.

Here is a tale I feel representative. On Netmums, you get banned for swearing.
On Mumsnet, someone started a thread to complain about the swearing and one of the top posts was, “Off you fuck, cunty chops.”

Also, we should have gin drinking and mixing classes. Hurts my heart, these posters saying they haven’t found ways to enjoy the beverage separating us from the barbarihuns at the gate.

I’m slagging another site off @saraclara , not “women”.

The NM users didn’t choose to have tickers and real names and cutesy rules and an insipid atmosphere. They just, inexplicably, go along with it.

@saraclara well said!!

@Springfern if you were genuinely interested in the differences between the two forum you would take the time to go and read the other forum. It would take you less time to have a browse if it, than it would to read the replies on this thread.

You are a shit stirrer.

I really wish people wouldn’t encourage it by posting in a disparaging way about another forum.

Seriously - why? Why shit stir, why poke fun at people who are different to you? (and they’re not actually that different, really)

And let’s face it, the fun is usually snobbish. See above post about IQ.

All the people who pile in to be rude about MN should take a look at themselves.

@TottieandMarchpane If you were slagging off the site, you'd say IT'S unbearable surely?
You said they're and I'm pretty certain you meant the posters there.

..and the bandwagon is properly hitched! Yee hawww!

@TottieandMarchpane If you were slagging off the site, you'd say IT'S unbearable surely?
You said they're and I'm pretty certain you meant the posters there.

Nope.

MNHQ are a “they”. NMcentral are a “they” too.

Two founders each plus staff, I’m pretty sure.

HUBALUB?

What fresh hell is this?

But I wouldn't admit to being on MN either. Neither of them scream highly intelligent to me tbh, just a forum

...and sense is finally restored! @InsertFunnyUsername You deserve this award xx

@NoDontLookAtMeImShy a poster specifically stated IQ points.

OK, you can argue they didn’t say what the difference was, but it would be disingenuous in the context of the rest of their post to say it wasn’t claimed higher intelligence on MN.

Fair enough, some posted differences will be light hearted. But they are not all so. I find the nastiness unpleasant.

I mean, there's always a funny bastard or two.

But the general feel here is that they are different.

You wouldn't go into heavy metal pub with Pom poms and try asking them to play take that.

Nor would you go the Harvester and ask them to play System of a Down.

You frequent the places that suit you. And it's annoying when that's changed.

Where else can I go? I've looked. I haven't found an alternative MN with no huns

@Ellisandra I resent being called a shit stirrer! Yes I could have gone and looked myself but my question was about the history. It seemed like there was something long standing that I wouldn't have found out just browsing the forums.

I'm not responsible for other people's posts

And let’s face it, the fun is usually snobbish. See above post about IQ.

I am very snobbish about cutesy, glittery oceans of twee. Quite happy to admit it and stand by it.

Nothing at all to do with IQ.

@Ellisandra - that was me and I'll admit it was bitchy, there are a range of people on both MN & NM. I just found NM a bit vapid, dare I say, when I looked? I think that might be to do with forum rules and house style though, rather than individual users.

I think the difference @Chillyourbeans mentioned is correct as to why SOME of the parts NM feel so different. I'm DC free and find MN has a lot to offer because being a mum is incidental to a lot here, NM is more child centric. On the other hand, I find the hunning, hubbying and bubbsing, plus all the ticker stuff wouldn't be for me even if I had a baby. I don't see similar on the baby/more dc focused boards here, if you want a direct comparison. That's nothing to do with iq, just differing taste.

It was a bitchy thing to put, I'm sorry. Although I do see more stimulating and better informed debate on MN, on the whole so I wasn't entirely tongue in cheek when I put it , although some of my other points were.

As for MNers being meaner to each other, I think we're simply given more liberty as to what we post. NM unfiltered might have less babes and more cunts.

You deserve this award  xx

Oh thank you. I hope its glittery xoxo

Oh thank you. I hope its glitteryxoxo

Very much so, hun - with unicorns, hubbas and bubbas delivering it and shit! xxx

The icon is in memory of a much-loved poster called Zombie who loved gin & died from breast cancer.

I’d say MN are in favour.

I will forever proud of the fact that it only took me 30 minutes to be banned on NM 😂

@CAG12 Hubalub came about through an instagram post from a woman I know. I'd never seen/heard it before (and I'd assumed prior to that point that she was a nice enough, bright enough kind of woman) then, pow, out came her gushing post about her darling 'hubalub' and my arse turned itself inside out from all the clenching it did.

I've now witnessed three separate 'hubalub' incidents and each one hurts slightly more than the last. I don't have the heart to kill delete her because anyone using that word is bound to cry when they're deleted.

@Leighhalfpennysthigh - what did you do?

When the children were little, I used NM and then I found MN. I love you get to be an adult here and have intelligent debate. You can disagree with people without people running to mods and you get useful advice. Even if you don't like it, it is usually spot on.

For example, poster says "I have 3 children and am a SAHM. My DH works 2 days a week but won't help with child care, housework, cooking, washing and spends all his spare time at the pub"

Response on NM: "You poor thing hun you must be so exhausted, have you got any support other than hubby? He must be so tired working and he deserves some time to wind down too. Could you ask him to babysit for you once a year for an hour so you could do the food shop on your own?"

Response on MN: "What the actual fuck, OP your DH is a lazy selfish bastard who needs to get his finger out of his arse and help you with the children you had together. Tell him you are going away for the weekend without him or the children, he is paying and he can just fucking deal with it. Stop pandering to this man child. And if he doesn't like it, LTB"

Fuck. I didn’t know Zombie had died. That’s too sad.

I got banned over a baked potato argument on NM. Is the NM forum closed due to IT issues?