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To feel really sorry for Prince Harry breaking down

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AviationLifystyle · 16/10/2019 09:56

At the awards show. I have been a little skeptical about him recently but my heart really went out to him when I saw the footage.

I have a feeling that having a child has triggered a huge amount of unresolved grief and anxiety. Now he has this dear little boy who is at the mercy of the tabloid press, as is his wife and there is little he can do to protect him.

It's time the press laid off. This is a human being breaking in front of us.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/prince-harry-wellchild-awards-speech-emotional-meghan-pregnant-tears-a9157751.html

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Monty27 · 22/10/2019 01:59

@52Dooleydally agreed but that's what's great about her. What you see is what you get.

Dooleydally · 22/10/2019 02:04

@Monty27

I think that depends on whether you want the RF to thrive - pun intended - or not.

As a republican I hope that Meghan is instrumental to the beginning of a republic GB.

DonKeyshot · 22/10/2019 03:05

Meaghan seemed to think that all she had to do was don a tiara and start dispensing largesse to the peasants and she would be universally revered and adored like a princess in a Hollywood film.

Unfortunately she's merely the wife of the heir to the throne's second son and, as such, would have been best advised to keep a low profile while she learned how to enjoy la creme de la creme of all that the rarefied world of a member of the Royal Family has to offer without giving offence to those who foot the bill for these extravagant lifestyles.

As it is, she's yet to put a foot right and has shown that she's completely out of sync with what the British public expect of their Royals.

Harry wasn't the only child to lose his mother on that fateful night. William also suffered traumatic loss, but he's wrestled with his demons in private and, thankfully, isn't given to self-indulgent emoting in public.

H&M will most probably be exiled relocated to the States where Meaghan will live the life she craves as Queen of Hollywood while Harry will become her consort and regress to living the somewhat louche life he favoured before he became involved with Invictus which provided him with the opportunity for redemption that he's now squandered.

Dooleydally · 22/10/2019 03:11

As it is, she's yet to put a foot right and has shown that she's completely out of sync with what the British public expect of their Royals.

I think the responsibility here lies with Harry

Horehound · 22/10/2019 03:18

As a republican I hope that Meghan is instrumental to the beginning of a republic GB.

Er..why??

Horehound · 22/10/2019 03:19

Putting a foot right? No, you're listening to the media too much.
She's doing fine she just needs the media to quit the witch hunt.

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AviationLifystyle · 22/10/2019 03:27

I am starting to wonder if Meghan has given an ultimatum of some sort. Either this changes or she is leaving to live outside the UK, with or without him.

I also picked up that she didn't make a clear commitment to her marriage or the role - you would have thought she would say, we are in it for the long haul or some such. Taking it day by day indicates a much more temporary, fluid approach.

It would help explain his sudden fragility and seeming desperate attempts to change things. Poor guy is in a pretty awful situation.

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DonKeyshot · 22/10/2019 03:40

I agree, Dooleydally, but at the same time I feel that Meaghan could have done a lot more to comprehend the expectations and responsibilities that come with the immense privileges that are bestowed on members of the Royal Family.

DonKeyshot · 22/10/2019 03:59

I'm not 'listening to the media', Horehound.

My observations are based on what I've seen with my own eyes and imo Ms Markle has made numerous gaffes and knows it - hence the blame game.

orangeblosssom · 22/10/2019 04:07

It seems to me that the only reason Meghan is getting so much vitriol is that she has skin cells that are making more melanin.

DonKeyshot · 22/10/2019 04:21

Fgs, not that hoary old chestnut, orangeblossom.

It's been done to death yet it's still trotted out by those who are desperate to deflect from Ms Markle's shortcomings as a member of the Royal Family which have sod-all to do with her skin tone.

DonKeyshot · 22/10/2019 05:11

Inspired by Horehound I took a look at the media and I found this comment which sums

Meghan is a tax-payer funded public figure who has just seen poverty stricken children with their limbs blown off and used it as an opportunity to whinge about her very privileged life. She has disappointed the public and the public have a right to express that disappointment and the media have a right to report on it.

Blingandrings · 22/10/2019 05:30

I’ll bet 20 English pennies the 6 weeks off will contain plenty of Instagram action, an Oprah interview, appearance on Ellen and a couple of articles or blog posts. Or some variation thereof.

I hadn't considered that, but yes, that's probably what will happen. They need to take some proper time off and really look at what they want and where they are. Instead I suspect it will be an opportunity for M to catch up with celebrity friends in the US and maximise their appeal over there in preparation for a possible move.

I do think it's odd that William is only expressing concern through the media now. Hasn't it been obvious to him that Harry is in a bleak place? For all this publicity about mental health, why isn't he helping his own brother?
Both he and K have brothers with mental health issues, they have a lot to cope with as I'm sure W struggles too. He can't go public about it, as he's the future King. No one wants a King who is fragile mentally. It's very sad.
I wouldn't be surprised if M has already threatened to bolt. It was telling that she said 'as I keep saying to H it isn't enough to just survive..' He must spend a lot of time feeling guilty, desperate and angry. No wonder he's struggling.
M should have spent some time really thinking about expectations before she married, taking the time to get to know how it all works, meeting all the other members, talking to Kate and Camilla and Sophie. She rushed in with some notion of being able to change the world her way. It really is staggering that she didn't think it through properly. If she didn't do that and has made mistakes, she is to blame. Her lack of forethought extends to the way she handled her father. Not paving the way , introducing him to her future husband well before the wedding, helping him acclimatise. It's all been a botched job. Their whole approach is about rushing in and then a lot of damage limitation.
It's hard to to know how they can turn this around now.

ExecutiveFiat · 22/10/2019 06:00

They’re perfectly at liberty to step out of the public spotlight and live their lives without being funded by the public purse.

Their lack of self awareness is absolutely staggering. using an opportunity for self indulgent whingeing when they are amongst children who have had their limbs blown off beggars belief Angry

Never been a better time to get rid of this bunch of parasites and bring on the republic.!

ExecutiveFiat · 22/10/2019 06:04

I give it five years. MM will have gone back to the US with the sprog and Harry can start partying again, and indulging his love of dressing up in nazi uniforms Smile

mrscampbellblackagain · 22/10/2019 06:08

I would love to be a fly on the wall at Sandringham this Christmas Wink

In terms of support for them from the RF - they are grown ups and I guess don't have to take any support offered. If indeed any is/was offered.

ibanez0815 · 22/10/2019 06:12

Don, what are her 'shortcomings'?

StartupRepair · 22/10/2019 06:52

They fell in love a bit with their own publicity and the idea that they could change the world. No other royal describes their mission in such grandiose terms and this gets people's backs up. Plus the positioning of the complex continent of Africa as the backdrop for their own struggles.

BalloonSlayer · 22/10/2019 07:02

It was telling that she said 'as I keep saying to H it isn't enough to just survive..'

I felt that was possibly as the advice she has been given by PR people, Harry, and maybe any other Royals (but maybe not as she doesn't seem well supported), is "ignore it, hold your head high, get through it, and eventually people will forget about it. You'll survive it." Which is basically what the RF (apart from Diana) do about all bad publicity.

I felt that the "my friends told me not to marry Harry" thing was really sad. I can understand why she mentioned it, but to him it must have felt like the sort of thing yelled in a row "all my friends warned me not to marry you!!" ie this was a mistake and now I am seeing that my friends are right.

Harry probably promised at the time that she mustn't worry, he would look after her & defend her from the press, but of course there is only so much he can do against the might of the tabloids, and now he is worried he will lose her and panicking.

I actually feel really sad after seeing it, and I wish I hadn't seen the interviews. I deliberately didn't watch the programme but then all the pertinent bits were on the news. Sad

mrscampbellblackagain · 22/10/2019 07:14

That's a good point Balloon - that comment isn't going to make Harry feel massively secure.

I think relationships where it is you against the rest of the world must be very exciting/intense to begin with but that wears off.

I hope they both have good friends they can sound off too. Personally I think that would be wiser than talking to documentary makers.

Is the overall feeling that 'people' have more sympathy for them now? From my RL conversations yesterday I would say no. There is some sympathy but it is limited.

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 22/10/2019 07:21

I would love to be a fly on the wall at Sandringham this Christmas

I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't go.

malificent7 · 22/10/2019 07:23

Megan has done some good things...the Grenfell cookery book was lovely as was the elephant stuff in uganda. I think people hate shes a black American tbh.

Nextphonewontbesamsung · 22/10/2019 07:41

Jesus! Some of the posts on this thread are excessively ugly. While we still have a Monarchy I cannot for the life of me see what Harry and Meghan have done to deserve this level of dislike/disapproval.

Octonaught · 22/10/2019 07:43

Meghan has her greatest wish to be the ultimate Instagram Influencer.
However, 2 things, it comes at a price; you have to take the negative press with the positive.
Also, it is diametrically opposite to the private life Harry wishes for himself.
I agree with pp’s that she will use the time in the US to network and give interviews.
I think they both want to live in Commonwealth countries, but I reckon she would prefer Canada and he would like Anywhere in Africa.
Unfortunately they have now brought a baby into this sorry mess.
Not sure what the set up is, but as a grandchild of a future monarch, would Archie be able to live overseas if Meghan & Harry split...?

Cerseirys · 22/10/2019 07:45

This is getting a bit distasteful with talk of divorce and what might happen to Archie if they split. There's also an awful lot of psychics who know exactly what's going through Meghan's mind!