To feel really sorry for Prince Harry breaking down

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At the awards show. I have been a little skeptical about him recently but my heart really went out to him when I saw the footage.

I have a feeling that having a child has triggered a huge amount of unresolved grief and anxiety. Now he has this dear little boy who is at the mercy of the tabloid press, as is his wife and there is little he can do to protect him.

It's time the press laid off. This is a human being breaking in front of us.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/prince-harry-wellchild-awards-speech-emotional-meghan-pregnant-tears-a9157751.html

This marriage does not have longevity written over it

Sadly, I think you're right
The various comments about "existing but not living", "it's not enough to survive, you've got to thrive and be happy" and the suggestion that a British stiff upper lip is damaging inside all sound like a goodbye note to me ... the sort of thing we'll probably be hearing on Oprah all too soon

If they're not together i think poor Harry will be an absolute mess. He is desperate for the marriage to work.

That is sad

I agree - and he will 100% blame the media if it all goes tits up and she bolts.

No, I don’t.

The various comments about "existing but not living", "it's not enough to survive, you've got to thrive and be happy" and the suggestion that a British stiff upper lip is damaging inside all sound like a goodbye note to me

I don’t know - they haven’t even been married 18 months yet! And they clearly do love each other very much, given the way they interact in joint appearances and on the documentary last night. I think it’s more likely that they’ll renounce royal life and move to the States or possibly Africa.

I’m really surprised to see the BBC basing a whole news item around something a “Kensington Palace source” said. Aren’t they supposed to be above that level of reporting?

I was a bit surprised myself, but while the BBC padded it out a bit, the core thing about "worrying that H&M are in a fragile place" sounded autherntic enough

Though I could be completely wrong, I honestly believe this is William burnishing his "caring brother" image to protect himself from any fallout if the whole thing implodes completely

I really hope someone in the royal family steps up to support these two. I didn't get the impression that was happening. Based on Harry's on-going traumatic grief, their isolation and the shit press coverage, I'm uneasy for their wellbeing.

"Every single time I see a camera, every time I see a flash, it takes me straight back" (Harry). That is a huge weight of trauma 22 years after Diana's death. Press coverage of his wife must be hugely triggering. Her challenges as a new wife and mother in the royal family myst be enormous - how well supported is she?

It's not a great mix

I could be totally wrong here , but the bit about the brothers not being so close... My 2 eldest boys were born the same years as them and were close, went to school together, played sport together, but as adults they live opposite sides of the world, are engrossed in young family life with full time work. They see each other about once a year if that but they aren’t estranged, life just changes and moves along.

"Every single time I see a camera, every time I see a flash, it takes me straight back"

So he marries a glamorous Hollywood actress. Never seemed to bother him before, in his party days. What a load of Bs.

"Every single time I see a camera, every time I see a flash, it takes me straight back" (Harry). That is a huge weight of trauma 22 years after Diana's death

I think this is very strange for a number of reasons.

His mother is dead because of a drunk driver massively over the limit and the fact she wasn't wearing a seat belt. The idea that she was killed by a photographer is just wrong. It feels a bit jarring to be trying to pretend she is directly dead because of a camera click.

The death of a mother is obviously a tragedy for a young boy but one would expect that he had access to the top medical, counselling and grief care in the world. It is now 22 years later. Many of us have dealt with similar issues in our life - 10 years later you should be coping on a day to day basis.

He has done numerous interviews and made public appearances before his involvement with Meghan in which he never appeared so fragile and never said any of this stuff. It seems quite new - this media relatied fragility of his.

The whole thing to me has an aura of Meghan trying to set up an exit route for herself - we never had a chance because of your terrible media tabloids - and is sucking him into her spin.

I never really had strong feelings about them before but do think this interview and whole public hand wringing has done neither of them any favours.

It’s all about victim blaming. If they ever do split up or leave the country everyone else will be to blame,

I mean are we expected to believe what they say. It’s like some people don’t think they’d ever lie.

I think we all wish they'd leave the country - and take their demands on the UK taxpayers with them.

I know what you mean purple.
But also becoming a parent can really change your perspective and make you more vulnerable. I do think he's had/has some particular perspectives around his mums portrayal in the press and the cause of her death. Maybe they are not accurate/a bit paranoid. But as someone who's experienced a lot of trauma, it makes some sense to me.

So he marries a glamorous Hollywood actress. grin Never seemed to bother him before, in his party days. What a load of Bs

Yup

Given that he seems to bear a grudge against the press (which Diana used when it suited) I wonder if he has a grudge against his dad and step mum. If he’s looking to put blame on someone you’d think they’d be in the firing line. But, as has been said, it seems to have all just occurred to him very recently.

I think Meghan is struggling with Royal life for a couple of reasons - she didn't really understand how intense the scrutiny would be and secondly, because (unlike Kate) she doesn't have a supportive family around her, except for her Mum. Her father gave her private letters to a tabloid, ffs, she probably feels she can't trust anyone.

I don't think the media is really to blame, her life has changed massively in the past couple of years and it's hardly surprising that she's finding it hard -and Harry's worried about her.

Also, she wasn't really accustomed to the limelight prior to meeting Harry, she was in one popular TV show that some people watched. I live in the US and had no clue who she was - she wasn't a Hollywood A-lister.

I think she loves the limelight. I refuse to feel sorry for either of them. They don’t have to struggle, we really don’t want to hear privileged royals winching.

I wonder if he has a grudge against his dad and step mum. I always thought it was William who was not on good terms with Camilla, and Harry was the easy going one.
All those stories about how he likes to spend holidays with the Middletons and not with his father.

I wonder if he has a grudge against his dad and step mum. I always thought it was William who was not on good terms with Camilla, and Harry was the easy going one.

Yeah I think we all thought that Harry was the easy going one, but now in light of all these grudges coming out it seems not to be the case. If he’s feeling anger years later about the press it makes you wonder what he thinks about his dad and Camilla causing his mum all that grief.

I feel very sorry for Meghan because unlike Kate, she is not from a secure, safe and loving family.

She literally does not know how to be part of a family unit.

Sorry, posted too soon.

Meghan literally does not know how to fit into a family unit let alone the Royal family of the United Kingdom.

I don't feel sorry for them exactly, but nevertheless I think she's personally struggling with all the changes.

Kate knew what she was letting herself in for, I don't believe Meghan had a clue!