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To feel really sorry for Prince Harry breaking down

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AviationLifystyle · 16/10/2019 09:56

At the awards show. I have been a little skeptical about him recently but my heart really went out to him when I saw the footage.

I have a feeling that having a child has triggered a huge amount of unresolved grief and anxiety. Now he has this dear little boy who is at the mercy of the tabloid press, as is his wife and there is little he can do to protect him.

It's time the press laid off. This is a human being breaking in front of us.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/prince-harry-wellchild-awards-speech-emotional-meghan-pregnant-tears-a9157751.html

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Blingandrings · 21/10/2019 19:07

I wondered that too. Also noticed that every time M and W are together in any capacity there is no interaction or acknowledgement of each other. H however seems close to K and very at ease with her.

Horehound · 21/10/2019 19:14

Why do we think there's a rift??

BertrandRussell · 21/10/2019 19:18

Out of interest can anyone name any of the groups W and K visited in Pakistan?

NormaBean · 21/10/2019 19:24

Did they have a documentary about the Pakistan visit?

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 21/10/2019 19:24

The problem is that M has spent her whole adult life courting public opinion. She is used to being lauded, people telling her how wonderful she is I suspect. Being in the RF is the reverse in all senses to what she is used to. It's a thankless job in terms of public opinion, you have to develop a lot of inner resilience and draw on reserves that you create through good friends and family. She has only one member of her family who provides this

Yes this! Also baring your soul and dirty laundry in public is a winner in America, they love it there. It is the home of talk show television and breaking down on TV. It's part of the success of shows like Dr Phil.

Showing your vulnerability and describing your oppression is a way to cement your image, gain kudos and raise your profile if you are famous in America. See Jussie Smollett and the initial reaction when everyone believed him. See also Senator Warren attempting to drag up totally fake associations to being indigenous American Indian. Why would you do that? Because having a sad story, constantly bringing it up and looking sad about it absolutely pays off there.

It doesn't here in the UK. It does the opposite. If M doesn't know this and expected the Daily Fail etc to be 100% fair, then she was very poorly briefed and very poorly prepared for her role. I think the courtship was too quick. Kate had a lengthy courtship so had no illusions about the benevolence of the UK press by the time she married W.

Overall American press is more favourable to it's celebs. I doubt H&M would have received much scrutiny over their PJ flights if they lived there.

Whilst the tabloids do need greater regulation, I'm pleased our press are not so left leaning and celebrity loving to the point of being pointless.

I wonder if this confessional TV style was endorsed by their American PR team? It really doesn't sound like something a UK based PR team or Buck Palace would have suggested.

Diana was able to tread in places other Royals could not. Her kohl lined, wide eyed interviewed worked, even though it was totally self-indulgent, but at the end of the day, everyone knew she was living as a woman scorned and had pity for that. But as regards every other royal, we don't expect them to be so lacking in tact and self-possession as to complain about how tough their lives are, whilst supposedly highlighting how difficult things are for those with far less than their lowest paid staff!

I think the 6 week break is a good thing (and probably prescribed by someone) and they need to stop listening to celeb friends and others telling them how hard they have it.

NormaBean · 21/10/2019 19:24

Genuine question

OverByYer · 21/10/2019 19:26

K&W didn’t make a documentary, but I recall them playing cricket ( sport charity?)
Visiting a glacier ( environment?)
Visiting a dog training facility ( drug enforcement?)

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 21/10/2019 19:43

SOS Children’s home
Can you name any charities which H&M visited in Africa (without googling) as you’re their biggest cheerleader

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 21/10/2019 19:44

That’s to @BertrandRussell

BertrandRussell · 21/10/2019 19:50

“ Can you name any charities which H&M visited in Africa (without googling) as you’re their biggest cheerleader”
No I can’t. But I couldn’t before I watched the documentary! Oh, apart from the Halo Trust.
And no I’m not their cheerleader. I just don’t like people- whoever they are- to be unfairly treated.

wondering7777 · 21/10/2019 20:11

If M doesn't know this and expected the Daily Fail etc to be 100% fair

MailOnline is big in America as well as the UK isn’t it? But in her engagement interview she did say that in America she never was “tabloid fodder” so to speak, and lived a quiet life. Which, given her level of fame, makes total sense. When she got engaged to Harry she was suddenly rocketed to mega A-list status and the tabloids took a huge interest that wasn’t there before.

bluebells100 · 21/10/2019 20:13

How many women in the UK have to use food banks this week. I wonder how often they get asked if they “are ok”.

We don’t want to hear the winching and whining of the taxpayer funded royal family. Not content with the huge wealth, privilege and fame, MM thinks she’s badly done to. What a total lack of awareness.

bluebells100 · 21/10/2019 20:23

BerrndRussell People having to use food banks, zero hours contracts, the injustices of universal credit etc are “unfairly treated”. The rich elite aren’t. In the big scheme of things MM is very fortunate, not worthy of such staunch defending, she’s hardly badly done to.

KimchiLaLa · 21/10/2019 20:24

In Harry and Meghan's engagement interview, Harry says how keen William was to meet Meghan when she and Harry got together, and how Meghan and Harry have met up with William and Kate a number of times. Meghan even says how Kate has been "so supportive" and that the whole of Harry's family have. Ut sounded like they were on good terms at that stage - I wonder what (if anything) went wrong?

W prob offered some "advice" when they started playing it wrong with the wedding and Harry would have objected.

HarryDaylight · 21/10/2019 20:25

bluebells100 or have family members with brain injuries/trauma with piss poor access to NHS help because it doesn't bloody exist.

PurplePoepleEater · 21/10/2019 20:57

In Harry and Meghan's engagement interview, Harry says how keen William was to meet Meghan when she and Harry got together, and how Meghan and Harry have met up with William and Kate a number of times. Meghan even says how Kate has been "so supportive" and that the whole of Harry's family have. Ut sounded like they were on good terms at that stage - I wonder what (if anything) went wrong?

Maybe she made a good first impression but then they got to know her and saw through an act? She does come across IMHO as being very in control of Harry and their relationship.

derxa · 21/10/2019 21:30

I don't like meghan much but I hate to see people suffer. And what about poor wee Archie?

formerbabe · 21/10/2019 21:53

They both came across as totally miserable to me. I'd be completely amazed if they're still together in ten years time.

Blingandrings · 21/10/2019 22:09

If they're not together i think poor Harry will be an absolute mess. He is desperate for the marriage to work.

Octonaught · 21/10/2019 22:24

Agree with pp’s
This marriage does not have longevity written over it.
I’ll be amazed if it lasts 5 more years.
It is sad, because they do love each other, but they have both made huge sacrifices to be together and have mistaken that first flush of love; which can be heightened with separation.
The most solid marriages in the RF had really long courtships.
2 people from broken homes; desperate for their happy ever after.
They really need to step away from the spotlight for a good chunk of time. They can still work on their projects. It doesn’t need to be flashed up on social media constantly. And a bit of therapy for both of them would not go amiss...

wondering7777 · 21/10/2019 22:28

Oh great, so now the BBC's reporting that a KP source says William's worried about H&M being "in a fragile place"

I’d assumed this story was yet more tabloid tittle tattle when I read it online this afternoon. I’ve just seen it on the BBC News at 10! I’m really surprised to see the BBC basing a whole news item around something a “Kensington Palace source” said. Aren’t they supposed to be above that level of reporting? Or am I not understanding how the media works Confused

CallmeAngelina · 21/10/2019 22:28

They really need to step away from the spotlight for a good chunk of time.
Well, I presume that's what this six weeks business is about, although it doesn't sound as though that will be enough. Already I've seen it reported as a holiday, when it's quite clearly the royal equivalent of being signed off on medical grounds as being unfit for work - a sick note, if you like.

timshelthechoice · 21/10/2019 22:32

Marry in haste repent at leisure.

PortiaCastis · 21/10/2019 22:33

Miaow

NormaBean · 21/10/2019 22:33

I’ll bet 20 English pennies the 6 weeks off will contain plenty of Instagram action, an Oprah interview, appearance on Ellen and a couple of articles or blog posts. Or some variation thereof.